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No, helpimcrap was very clear in his view that the only way for interest rates is up. You must be mistaken?
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No, helpimcrap was very clear in his view that the only way for interest rates is up. You must be mistaken?
[TW]Fox;29759359 said:No, helpimcrap was very clear in his view that the only way for interest rates is up. You must be mistaken?
Which I thought was a bit odd, since he said his job was planning offshore finance for Conservatives....?
if that's the only the way!
It should never have been a binary choice on a matter that is obviously far more complex than a binary choice. The whole thing is an utterly contemptible failure.
I am a conservative voter and that is exactly how I see it.
If we voted for brexit it was always going to be a very hard right tory government and for me the other danger is we could end up with a very hard left Labour in the future. (Though in fairness at least some people who voted for brexit did actually want that).
Yay back to the days of labour bankrupting the country to nationalise industry's and X years later the conservatives selling them off cheap again !
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[TW]Fox;29759359 said:No, helpimcrap was very clear in his view that the only way for interest rates is up. You must be mistaken?
I was generalising. Rates are already very low. They could go down but for people who like security on such a big expense and it takes a while for things to happen there is a planning advantage which sets your mind at ease. I was thinking of the interest rates from the 80s. I can't afford more expense so I like the security. If I can afford it I am reckless with it and don't care.
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That's 3-4 years worth of job stealing by Eastern Europeans, executed in a week by Leavers. Unreal.
Lol.
Of course it should have been a binary choice, because that's what it came down to. But nobody said it was simple. That's why there was months of campaigning. But it came down to :-
- Leave, and only post-vote nrgotiations will determine what that looks like,
OR
- Remain, but only post-vote evolution of the EU will determine what that looks like.
There were a number of things clealy implicit in Leave, one of which was that as what happens depends on negotiation, it is not possible to detail that relationship ourselves because the other 27 have a large say, and on most aspects, can simply outvote whatever we want.
Similarly, there are different camps in the EU as to how the EU moves forward, and as the other 27 have a substantial say on that too, we cannot know exactly what that looks like either. We do have guidance in the treaty and the statement of Commission leaders and other member states to give us a clue though.
This is like so many decisions in life. Do I accept that new job offer, or stay put? You cannot know for sure how either will turn out. Should I propose to my girlfriend? That might be the best move you ever make, or an unmitigated disaster. Pizza or Chinese for dinner?
Life regularly requires a bit of a leap of faith. And that was our binary choice - leave, not knowing quite what it meant, or remain, not knowing quite what it meant.
But what was clear, given the "deal" Cameron got from Brussels after months of touring capitals and weeks. of negotiations, was that the EU was not up for a third option, that being substantive reform. Hence, the only choice on offer was remsin, or leave.
Like a broken record on and on and on.
We were warned what Leave would mean, it wasn't 'unknown', it's happening as we speak. Or maybe it's a coincidence 700k job offers got wiped out?
We also knew what Remain meant, nothing changes. Which, given the latest developments, probably looks more appealing even to diehard Leavers.
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