Punching kids on public transport

Roar87 · 25 Jul 2016 at 16:42

Avenged7Fold said:
An arm lock in a cramped space with a struggling kid can lead to all sorts of injury. I dont think the guy had the right to do anything, considering it really isnt anything to do with him.

It's actually good practise to do use something like an arm lock over say striking with a punch or a kick, it's why Jiu Jitsu is a fantastic martial art for Police and people who have to use restraints such as Mental health nurses. The arm lock the kid was in won't have been painful at all, he just won't have been able to move. Plus all we've seen so far is a picture, we don't know if the kid did anything else

ChroniC · 25 Jul 2016 at 16:43

Smacking doesn't create psychos, infact we imo a huge problem with children who know no boundaries in this day and age, simply because they fear no consequences to their actions.
I think this however was a bit overboard, they were being disrespectful but it doesn't warrant physical harm. Had he got lippy to the old man and threatened him then fair play.
Seems to me that the old man some how felt that he needed to teach them a lesson. Bit of a grey area because, yes you should respect your elders but sadly we do not.
I have had times where I felt I would love to give a kid a clip round the ear.

Begbie · 25 Jul 2016 at 16:43

Why do people care if other people have their feet up anyway? If it isn't affecting you, why does it matter? I can't understand why people would get so upset over it.

KillBoY_UK · 25 Jul 2016 at 16:43

Punch a kid that young is not on but I understand the frustration, the Kids really should know better. Its worse when Adults do it ofc.

People need to remember its Public transport and not your own personal transport

Tummy · 25 Jul 2016 at 16:44

Roar87 said:
It's actually good practise to do use something like an arm lock over say striking with a punch or a kick, it's why Jiu Jitsu is a fantastic martial art for Police and people who have to use restraints such as Mental health nurses. The arm lock the kid was in won't have been painful at all, he just won't have been able to move. Plus all we've seen so far is a picture, we don't know if the kid did anything else

Have you read the article? The children did not instigate any violence, and were punched and placed in arm/headlock type hold.

Hopefully the man is arrested and charged with assault.

d_brennen · 25 Jul 2016 at 16:44

Thinking about it I can't remember me or my sisters ever getting a smack. I knew that it was totally possible though

Tummy · 25 Jul 2016 at 16:44

Begbie said:
Why do people care if other people have their feet up anyway? If it isn't affecting you, why does it matter? I can't understand why people would get so upset over it.

'CAUSE IT IS NOT HOW YOU SIT MAN.

Have used public transport a lot, the world over, people sitting with their feet up is not unusual in the slightest.

Rroff · 25 Jul 2016 at 16:46

Tummy said:
The victims were not inconveniencing the attacker though, they were sat with their feet up on the train seats (happens all the time).

Not that I could condone it but I could sort of understand it if they had their feet up kicking at the back of the seat behind where he was sitting but in this case it is just a grumpy old man.

Not a fan of people putting their feet up on public seats either but wouldn't bother me to the point of remonstrating with someone over it - I'd just think slightly the less of them and move on with my life.

Maverick2332 · 25 Jul 2016 at 16:47

Nice clickbait title.

He armlocked him not punched him, fair enough it's not much better but there's a difference.

tom_e · 25 Jul 2016 at 16:48

Maverick2332 said:
Nice clickbait title.

He armlocked him not punched him, fair enough it's not much better but there's a difference.

The witness in the article states he punched him then put him in the lock.

Tummy · 25 Jul 2016 at 16:48

Rroff said:
Not that I could condone it but I could sort of understand it if they had their feet up kicking at the back of the seat behind where he was sitting but in this case it is just a grumpy old man.

Not a fan of people putting their feet up on public seats either but wouldn't bother me to the point of remonstrating with someone over it - I'd just think slightly the less of them and move on with my life.

That was not what happened though, he approached them, twice the second time resulting in an assault on three children (who's ages added together are still less than half his age).

Hopefully he is arrested and charged with assault, mystifying that people did not intervene.

Tummy · 25 Jul 2016 at 16:49

Maverick2332 said:
Nice clickbait title.

He armlocked him not punched him, fair enough it's not much better but there's a difference.

Did you even read the article? Clearly says in the witness statement that he punched one of the children first.

KillBoY_UK · 25 Jul 2016 at 16:49

Begbie said:
Why do people care if other people have their feet up anyway? If it isn't affecting you, why does it matter? I can't understand why people would get so upset over it.

Peeps with muddy/dirty and feat put said mud/dirt on a seat, why should anyone have to then sit on that ? It also lead the the seat wearing more quickly, would you want to sit on a ****ed up seat due to this. The later is especially bad on on the back of bus's when they are the only row which have seats facing each other.

Its all about respecting the public environment for the next person that has to be there and use it, sure this is on the lower end of the scale but its part of a general trend sadly in the UK

cheesyboy · 25 Jul 2016 at 16:50

Bloody youth of yesterday. Someone should do something about these yob pensioners.

Tummy · 25 Jul 2016 at 16:50

KillBoY_UK said:
Peeps with muddy/dirty and feat put said mud/dirt on a seat, why should anyone have to then sit on that ? It also lead the the seat wearing more quickly, would you want to sit on a ****ed up seat due to this. The later is especially bad on on the back of bus's when they are the only row which have seats facing each other.

Its all about respecting the public environment for the next person that has to be there and use it, sure this is on the lower end of the scale but its part of a general trend sadly in the UK

So it is ok to punch a child when they do this?

Roar87 · 25 Jul 2016 at 16:50

Tummy said:
Have you read the article? The children did not instigate any violence, and were punched and placed in arm/headlock type hold.

Hopefully the man is arrested and charged with assault.

Yeah if he punched them that was out of order, we don't really have many details though apart from what some 17 year old can vaguely remember

Tummy · 25 Jul 2016 at 16:52

Roar87 said:
Yeah if he punched them that was out of order, we don't really have many details though apart from what some 17 year old can vaguely remember

'Did not read'
'Do not care what article actually says'

KillBoY_UK · 25 Jul 2016 at 16:52

Tummy said:
So it is ok to punch a child when they do this?

A different question which I answered in post 24

Rroff · 25 Jul 2016 at 16:52

Tummy said:
That was not what happened though, he approached them, twice the second time resulting in an assault on three children (who's ages added together are still less than half his age).

Hopefully he is arrested and charged with assault, mystifying that people did not intervene.

I didn't say it was what happened

I said I could have understood it if had been the case.

Tummy · 25 Jul 2016 at 16:53

KillBoY_UK said:
A different question which I answered in post 24

You also said it is public transport, not personal transport. So why would you care that people have their feet up? If in your own words it is not personal, but public?