Brexit thread - what happens next

dalehitchy1 · 26 Jul 2016 at 10:15

Unless we go WTO in which case say hello to price hikes. I don't get why people want the EU to collapse anyway. Even that happening will cause a world recession.

Darujhistan · 26 Jul 2016 at 10:26

Concrete said:
I would be 100% for it.

Give the slower sections of society a chance to see that things have only got worst based on their actions.

Then give them an easy way out of the mess they have created.

Could call it the Breverse maneuver

Oh the irony...

Mr Badger · 26 Jul 2016 at 10:26

dalehitchy1 said:
Unless we go WTO in which case say hello to price hikes. I don't get why people want the EU to collapse anyway. Even that happening will cause a world recession.

Sentiments such as that are a good indication of the general level of ignorance relating to the EU debate and anyone saying so clearly has no idea of the economic reality. Allegedly around 45% of our exports go to the EU and at times that figure has been over 50%. If the EU collapses it will most assuredly be bad news for the UK, even if we are no longer an official part of the union.

do_ron_ron · 26 Jul 2016 at 10:38

Xordium said:
There is a lot of truth in this post. At the end of the day we are likely to get something negotiated that satisfies none of us and arguably will only act in the interests of the corporate world especially the city of London.

That is probably going to be the outcome although given the current problems in France and Germany a brake of movement for X years seems to be gaining favour.

do_ron_ron · 26 Jul 2016 at 10:43

Greebo said:
I see the 3 billion eu development fund has been suspended. This is money due from the eu as investment into the uk, but the rules are the home country has to match the payment.

I am sure the UK has failed at least twice to spend money allocated by the EU

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...s-treasury-brexit-eu-referendum-a7154526.html

In other news I also see that making the minimum wage regional so poorer areas can pay less is been proposed again. Guess all those poor areas up north who voted out are about to become poorer still. So much for May saying she was going to look after the people who felt left out.

Nothing changes.

scorza · 26 Jul 2016 at 10:44

do_ron_ron said:
That is probably going to be the outcome although given the current problems in France and Germany a brake of movement for X years seems to be gaining favour.

LOL not so long ago you were adamant we'd have to accept free movement if we wanted access to the single market. Now you're starting to backtrack.

do_ron_ron · 26 Jul 2016 at 11:00

Concrete said:
They finally got round to coming up with a plan? Is it shared anywhere?

Come on. Its only been a month. They will be having meetings about meetings to discuss the seating arrangements of future discussions to arrange the timetable of discussions of future needs to be discussed. That will of course come after they have discussions about the makeup of these committees that will hold these discussions.

do_ron_ron · 26 Jul 2016 at 11:04

dalehitchy1 said:
Unless we go WTO in which case say hello to price hikes. I don't get why people want the EU to collapse anyway. Even that happening will cause a world recession.

You mean the 10% drop in the value of the £ won't cause price hikes. Wait a couple of months till it works it way through.

do_ron_ron · 26 Jul 2016 at 11:11

scorza said:
LOL not so long ago you were adamant we'd have to accept free movement if we wanted access to the single market. Now you're starting to backtrack.

The reason I think we may have this is due solely to the events of the past few days. The terrorism threat is worrying a lot of countries and freedom of movement is seen as facilitating these people. The reason it will also be only a temporary measure is due to resistance to accepting removing freedom of movement.

Hagar · 26 Jul 2016 at 12:27

do_ron_ron said:
The reason I think we may have this is due solely to the events of the past few days. The terrorism threat is worrying a lot of countries and freedom of movement is seen as facilitating these people. The reason it will also be only a temporary measure is due to resistance to accepting removing freedom of movement.

Temporary measures have a habit of becoming rules with time and usage. Facts on the ground.

Greebo · 26 Jul 2016 at 12:37

do_ron_ron said:
I am sure the UK has failed at least twice to spend money allocated by the EU

Nothing changes.

Problem is this time the businesses had been told they were getting it and it was all approved but now everything is on hold.

Sucks if you were one of those businesses though.

Skunkworks · 26 Jul 2016 at 12:45

wildman said:
correct, and they won't even have the decency to give us a reach around. Anyone who thinks we can get a good deal with China, i.e one that benefits us as much as them is dreaming.

Phew, I thought the misery train might have been derailed for a moment, but full steam ahead!

bayo000 · 26 Jul 2016 at 12:49

scorza said:
LOL not so long ago you were adamant we'd have to accept free movement if we wanted access to the single market. Now you're starting to backtrack.

Break for few years is not the same thing as no free movement.

do_ron_ron · 26 Jul 2016 at 13:14

scorza said:
LOL not so long ago you were adamant we'd have to accept free movement if we wanted access to the single market. Now you're starting to backtrack.

Did you read the post? The EU is against any removal of freedom of movement. Clear?

I said I could see a possibility that the freedom of movement might be temporarily suspended due to the current terrorist attacks. Clear?

This will only be temporary. Clear?

Then we would have to go back to accepting total freedom of movement if we wanted access to the single market.

do_ron_ron · 26 Jul 2016 at 13:16

nkata said:
Temporary measures have a habit of becoming rules with time and usage. Facts on the ground.

Only if the terrorist attacks continue for years.

StriderX · 26 Jul 2016 at 13:18

do_ron_ron said:
Only if the terrorist attacks continue for years.

Which it will, id bet many millions (if i had them) on this really easy and most definite fact.

do_ron_ron · 26 Jul 2016 at 13:27

Greebo said:
Problem is this time the businesses had been told they were getting it and it was all approved but now everything is on hold.

Sucks if you were one of those businesses though.

True.

They can always use their Sovereignty instead

Skunkworks · 26 Jul 2016 at 13:30

do_ron_ron said:
True.

They can always use their Sovereignty instead

Yay misery!

Mulder · 26 Jul 2016 at 13:33

I suspect many of the people who died for our democracy (and sovereignty) would be turning in their graves at some of the comments in this thread.

do_ron_ron · 26 Jul 2016 at 13:34

Mulder said:
I suspect many of the people who died for our democracy (and sovereignty) would be turning in their graves at some of the comments in this thread.

Jingoistic claptrap.