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The Pascal GTX 1070 Owners Thread

Funny enough I hated maxwell throttling and find my pascal card much stabler on the clocks.

Be aware the so called thermal throttling is probably TDP throttling, I tried to explain this to some others on another forum also. Its likely just coincidence it happens when card reaches temp you feel is the throttle point. Pascal cards have TDP limits set very agressively low.
 
chrcoluk said:
Funny enough I hated maxwell throttling and find my pascal card much stabler on the clocks.

Be aware the so called thermal throttling is probably TDP throttling, I tried to explain this to some others on another forum also. Its likely just coincidence it happens when card reaches temp you feel is the throttle point. Pascal cards have TDP limits set very agressively low.
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So regardless of temps, as soon as it hits a certain peak wattage it throttles?
 
I think it's more due to the temps than TDP but I might be wrong.

Even when the card is heavily utilised the boost clock stays at 2101mhz but obviously it doesn't take long to reach 60c, at which point it drops to 2088.

About Maxwell clock stability, I'd agree Pascal is more stable as I see practically constant 2076mhz, but its limits are a lot more agressive.

Maxwell dropped when it was really pushed (which was often:p), this card drops without even breaking a sweat...

I can't imagine Pascal boiling at 2101mhz, TBH. Even if it were to breach 70c, it's still nothng.

I know they wanted to artificially limit OC potential but such temp and TDP restrictions are a bit too much.
 
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bru said:
It just comes down to the warranty, with Zotac being out in front with 5 years, with most others offering either 2 or 3 years.
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I think 3 years warranty is plenty on a graphics card, most people upgrade after 3 years anyway and the card probably isn't worth much.
 
On a hot day when pushing my card and forgetting to pull it out of it's TV stands it tops out at 83c.

My cpu hits 75c in normal hard usage scenarios.


I don't care, it's part of the ITX concession
 
McGraw said:
So regardless of temps, as soon as it hits a certain peak wattage it throttles?
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yes TDP limit doesnt matter what the temp is.

TDP is the power limit the card can draw, this is set to way less than what is possible on the hardware, probably so nvidia can achieve its performance per watt figures and advertise a low power card.

You can monitor the power utilisation in gpuz, afterburner etc.
 
Amatsubu said:
I can't imagine Pascal boiling at 2101mhz, TBH. Even if it were to breach 70c, it's still nothng.

I know they wanted to artificially limit OC potential but such temp and TDP restrictions are a bit too much.
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But we don't not know for sure if it is them being overly restrictive. Maybe Pascal or 16nm FinFet can operate much better at lower temperature?

Has no one else here got a 1070 under water? I think a lot seems to depend on chip lottery also :)

I would not stress about the overclocking Pascal anyway, the returns are not as good as Maxwell was. Going from 2000MHz to 2100MHz core yields very little performance.
 
TNA said:
But we don't not know for sure if it is them being overly restrictive. Maybe Pascal or 16nm FinFet can operate much better at lower temperature?

Has no one else here got a 1070 under water? I think a lot seems to depend on chip lottery also :)

I would not stress about the overclocking Pascal anyway, the returns are not as good as Maxwell was. Going from 2000MHz to 2100MHz core yields very little performance.
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Yeah, you may be right.

Well, you know how it is, 2100mhz looks better than 2076, nothing to do with performance:D Honestly, I was just curious, I'm perfectly happy with 2076/+600mem as long as it's stable.

Though I've actually seen quite a bump in fps from stock to 2050mhz, I believe anything more is just icing on the cake. I'm at the limit anyways, going even 1mhz above +170 (which results in 2101mhz in game until it stats throttling) will eventually crash the drivers, at least in RoTR.

EDIT: I think I'll try a custom fan curve just for the hell of it and check if the clock sticks if I manage to keep the card under 66c.
 
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Also remember going from 2000 to 2100 is less than 1300 to 1400 on a 980Ti.

I'm really happy with Pascal anyway (besides prices, but we complained about that enough),
Boost 3.0 is almost perfect (2025 out of the box, 2115 with manual OC, but still pretty good).
 
chrcoluk said:
Funny enough I hated maxwell throttling and find my pascal card much stabler on the clocks.

Be aware the so called thermal throttling is probably TDP throttling, I tried to explain this to some others on another forum also. Its likely just coincidence it happens when card reaches temp you feel is the throttle point. Pascal cards have TDP limits set very agressively low.
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Not so sure. Every 1080 drops about 20Mhz as soon it reaches 50C. That cant be a coincidence. If you keep your 1080 below 50c it never dropps so isnt TDP.

I know with 1080s it drops off a cliff at 83C but there are other minor steps prior to 83C

So I would say a lot of boosts dropping is purely temp not TDP.
 
Greebo said:
Not so sure. Every 1080 drops about 20Mhz as soon it reaches 50C. That cant be a coincidence. If you keep your 1080 below 50c it never dropps so isnt TDP.

I know with 1080s it drops off a cliff at 83C but there are other minor steps prior to 83C

So I would say a lot of boosts dropping is purely temp not TDP.
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Those steps can be fixed on Maxwell (for those who care), in the end it's just numbers, performance is not going to change in any perceivable way.
 
Greebo said:
Not so sure. Every 1080 drops about 20Mhz as soon it reaches 50C. That cant be a coincidence. If you keep your 1080 below 50c it never dropps so isnt TDP.

I know with 1080s it drops off a cliff at 83C but there are other minor steps prior to 83C

So I would say a lot of boosts dropping is purely temp not TDP.
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My 1070 drops from 1949 to 1936 and sometimes lower when temps go above 57c ( out of the box )
 
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Greebo said:
Not so sure. Every 1080 drops about 20Mhz as soon it reaches 50C. That cant be a coincidence. If you keep your 1080 below 50c it never dropps so isnt TDP.

I know with 1080s it drops off a cliff at 83C but there are other minor steps prior to 83C

So I would say a lot of boosts dropping is purely temp not TDP.
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every 1080 is some statement.

Basically every person who has claimed it drops at a certian temperature, when they display some kind of data the TDP usage is always ommited.

I have ran a fair few tests on my pascal card and see no throttling whatsoever unless I am close to TDP limit.

A guy on another forum kept saying its thermal, its thermal. Then when I finally got him to show his TDP data the card was using only showing about 10% below TDP limit whilst he claimed it was "way below" the limit. Bear in mind the TDP will throttle within that range as its likely spiking to the limit if the card is reporting 10% below the limit.

I cannot believe this misinformation has spread around the net so much.

Jayz even did a video on this which I linked here, but seems no one watched it. When he raised the temp target to 90C, he had his card running at 85C with zero throttling, how do you explain that?
 
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chrcoluk said:
every 1080 is some statement.

Basically every person who has claimed it drops at a certian temperature, when they display some kind of data the TDP usage is always ommited.

I have ran a fair few tests on my pascal card and see no throttling whatsoever unless I am close to TDP limit.

A guy on another forum kept saying its thermal, its thermal. Then when I finally got him to show his TDP data the card was using only showing about 10% below TDP limit whilst he claimed it was "way below" the limit. Bear in mind the TDP will throttle within that range as its likely spiking to the limit if the card is reporting 10% below the limit.

I cannot believe this misinformation has spread around the net so much.

Jayz even did a video on this which I linked here, but seems no one watched it. When he raised the temp target to 90C, he had his card running at 85C with zero throttling, how do you explain that?
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Okay perhaps I dont undrstand then, please explain to me how a 1080 drops its max boost at 50c due to TDP and not temp then please?

Also please explain why 1080s with 1.25v and kept under at low temps under 60C can reach 2300 to 2400. Surely the TDP would have racked these cards back before then?
 
V F said:
How loud are the blower fans? I'm not keen on these huge double/triple fan designs...
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The freddie kruger one is very quiet even under load. However that is only if you have it on the standard cooler setting. I like to try and get it a bit cooler so when the fan passes 54 percent use (it's normal limit) it can get a bit loud, not as bad as my palit 970 blower used to but it's still a bit loud. At about 60 percent fan speed it becomes audible, below that it's nice and quiet.
 
Amatsubu said:
Yeah, you may be right.

Well, you know how it is, 2100mhz looks better than 2076, nothing to do with performance:D Honestly, I was just curious, I'm perfectly happy with 2076/+600mem as long as it's stable.

Though I've actually seen quite a bump in fps from stock to 2050mhz, I believe anything more is just icing on the cake. I'm at the limit anyways, going even 1mhz above +170 (which results in 2101mhz in game until it stats throttling) will eventually crash the drivers, at least in RoTR.

EDIT: I think I'll try a custom fan curve just for the hell of it and check if the clock sticks if I manage to keep the card under 66c.
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Yeah, 2100MHz does indeed look better. But I am happy with 2000MHz. It also means lower temperature and a less stressed card :)
 
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