Russell Square stabbings: Man arrested on suspicion of murder

RoboCod said:
Whilst true, your statement is a little misleading. You know that there was the anti establishment, the hippie movement and then also blacks (Luther King) effecting the civil rights acts. It wasn't as if the whole generation embraced one another and said "oh yeah, we're terrible racists, sorry about that, we'll change" and suddenly all got along. I'll safely say many of those people carried on, just being out right racist as always.



Indeed!
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So equally you statement that his generation was racist is missleading.
 
Does it matter if he was a Muslim. For crying out loud he had a known history of significant mental health disease. Now let's assume he followed a demographic model and was a paranoid schizophrenic who was in abject crisis then his actions weren't about his beliefs or lack of them but the fact he was very ill and most likely completely unsupported. Statistics say he would be far far more likely to harm himself than others but in some small numbers these such things can and will occur.

I am no fan of Islamic dogma but part of that is recognising that if you become that vehement against such a thing you end up become the very thing you allegedly despise. If you want to hold something in contempt then hold society in contempt for the way it stigmatises people who have a mental health disease and castigates them when in all likelihood we will all be drastically be impacted by it at some point in your life either personally or watching someone close to us struggle.

Maybe save the venom for a government that sees fit to reduce services for such vulnerable people and in doing so condemns society to the consequences of their actions.

You can't bemoan Muslims for not getting control of Islamic terror then go into another thread and trump up Tory NHS cutting on mental health services with that consequent events that will inevitably occur. That just smacks of bias, poor thinking and in all likelihood self-serving prejudice.
 
VincentHanna said:
They were Christian .....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nts-two-murders-and-rampant-fear-of-refugees/

Funny how news goes away when it doesn't suit a specific agenda or narrative....
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Funny how when Christians or people not a member of a certain faith that do this sort of thing are not labelled "mentally ill" most of the time, that annoys people a lot. Then again they don't seem to do this sorta thing as nearly as often with Christians in Islamic countries probably.
 
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KillBoY_UK said:
Funny how when Christians or people not a member of a certain faith do this sort of thing they are not labelled "mentally ill" most of the time, that annoys people a lot. Then again they don't seem to do this sorta thing as nearly as often.
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Anthony Hardy was. He committed multiple murders and was arrested in the smoking room at Gt Ormond St Hospital - 200m from Russell Square ...

The other big crime in the region in the past 20 years was the bus and tube bombing both of which did not result in diagnosis or consideration of mental health illness to the best of my knowledge.

Kind of refutes your point doesn't it.
 
KillBoY_UK said:
Funny how when Christians or people not a member of a certain faith do this sort of thing they are not labelled "mentally ill" most of the time, that annoys people a lot. Then again they don't seem to do this sorta thing as nearly as often.
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not all killers are mentally ill.

just because their actions may be incomprehensible to some it doesn't make them have a mental health condition.
 
KillBoY_UK said:
Funny how when Christians or people not a member of a certain faith do this sort of thing they are not labelled "mentally ill" most of the time, that annoys people a lot. Then again they don't seem to do this sorta thing as nearly as often.
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The same old argument which has been countered a dozen times, in a dozen threads

There has been no signs of radicalisation and he has a history of mental illness. He has also spent most of his life here.

Drawing this further into a debate about religion and making blanket statements about people of certain faiths is against the rules and there are plenty of those threads already.
 
Avenged7Fold said:
The same old argument which has been countered a dozen times, in a dozen threads

There has been no signs of radicalisation and he has a history of mental illness. He has also spent most of his life here.

Drawing this further into a debate about religion and making blanket statements about people of certain faiths is against the rules and there are plenty of those threads already.
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It was more a general comment that relating this particular case, but in the German knife attack or the nice deaths mental health was brought up yet again.
 
I don't remember the media bringing mental health up during the nice attacks.

I remember that the guy had recently got divorced and you have to be fairly wrong in the head to manically grim whilst mowing down 100's of innocents.

That was clearly a terrorist incident, but of course they look in to the background of the perpetrator.
 
n111ck said:
Not allowed to post the full word in any negative context.

Source =
Today's Sun
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I've removed the post because

  1. A neighbour describes his family as devout muslims, but that doesn't necessarily mean he is :confused:
  2. That has no relevance on this attack anyway, as mental health issues has already been stated as a contributory factor by the head of the counter terrorism police investigating. He even specifically ruled out radicalisation!
  3. lolSun

The Met’s counter-terrorism top cop, Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley said police had found no evidence he had been radicalised or had any link to terrorism.
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15573...ed-over-murder-of-woman-64-in-russell-square/
 
There is zero chance of him not being a Muslim if his family were devout Muslims, it doesn't have any relevance to the motive for his crime, but censoring it is absolutely pathetic
 
They are not censoring him being a Muslim, they are censoring the implications that it was motivated by religion and also generalisations made to people of that faith.

As far as i am concerned, this thread has been well moderated.
 
Avenged7Fold said:
They are not censoring him being a Muslim, they are censoring the implications that it was motivated by religion and also generalisations made to people of that faith.

As far as i am concerned, this thread has been well moderated.
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I think this level of fact checking is great and hope it's applied across every thread equally and consistently.
 
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