3 Year Old Boy Dies After Dog Bite

It's not the dog that's dangerous though it's the feckless owners. It is they who should be put away. Totally irresponsible.

I saw an incident only the other day where this brute of a thing out on its own was running amok terrifying everything and everyone in sight. Minutes later this overweight women comes wheezing into view, hair scraped back, ****** and jeffing at the top of her voice at the dog. I thought nice one love, as if the dog understands the foul language. Is it any wonder it's like it is.

I thought I landed on the set of Jeremy Kyle. :eek:

Why do people keep saying it's not the dog that's dangerous ? Obviously if you have to keep it in check and never ever allow it to get out the house how on earth is it not dangerous?
 
Why do people keep saying it's not the dog that's dangerous ? Obviously if you have to keep it in check and never ever allow it to get out the house how on earth is it not dangerous?

It's the idiot scumbag owners that cause the dog to be like that in the first place.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-37129134

Absolutely terrible. The number of dog attacks seems to be rising all the time. I honestly think there should be a law in place that means that any dog that so much as nips a human with their teeth is immediately destroyed. Also there should be more severe penalties in place for the dogs owner for allowing the attack to happen.

******* hate dogs! :mad:

Number of dog attacks rising? Really show me where it says that? Nips a human and kill it. Genius. So a person abuses a dog, kicks and punches it, dog snaps and its the dogs fault in your esteemed opinion? Give it a break. You clearly have something against dogs care to share?

Yes finally agree with something you wrote there should be more severe penalties in place for dog owners who don't either know how to control their dogs or how to treat them.

Will wait for more information on this story before saying anything specific other than R.I.P. to the tragic young boy.
 
Look I'm not saying its the dog's fault in most cases. I don't think dogs are evil. The reason I dislike dogs so much is that so many of them are owned by people who have no idea how to raise them properly. Again, that's not the dogs fault, but the end result is the same. That little boy is still dead, whether its the dogs fault or the owners.

I hate dogs charging at a fence and barking like mad at me when I'm walking past a house. I know it cant get me, but its damn intimidating when its a big dog. I hate dog muck fowling our pavements. And I absolutely despise people getting attacked and even killed by dogs and other people trying to brush it under the rug like it doesn't matter.... cause its not the dogs fault right? Like that makes it ok.
 
Why do people keep saying it's not the dog that's dangerous ? Obviously if you have to keep it in check and never ever allow it to get out the house how on earth is it not dangerous?

Well when you get a puppy it's no more dangerous than say a baby. Charles Manson wasn't dangerous as a baby was he? As with most things it all starts in the formative years.

If you train a puppy correctly it will in most cases grow into a well behaved manageable dog. The same can be said of people. We are all mammals and not that different though we like to think we are. ;)
 
Well when you get a puppy it's no more dangerous than say a baby. Charles Manson wasn't dangerous as a baby was he? As with most things it all starts in the formative years.

If you train a puppy correctly it will in most cases grow into a well behaved manageable dog. The same can be said of people. We are all mammals and not that different though we like to think we are. ;)

Sorry but that is absolute rubbish - hopefully the winky means you weren't serious.

Two of my closest friends at school ended up very violent individuals (one has just done a stint for assaulting a police officer and the other locked up forever) despite very different upbringings - one having a very good upbringing with a supportive family and the other from a broken home and less ideal formative years.
 
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I hate dogs charging at a fence and barking like mad at me when I'm walking past a house. I know it cant get me, but its damn intimidating when its a big dog. I hate dog muck fowling our pavements. And I absolutely despise people getting attacked and even killed by dogs and other people trying to brush it under the rug like it doesn't matter.... cause its not the dogs fault right? Like that makes it ok.

Again, all on the owner.

My dog never barks and would want you to stroke her through the fence and give your hand a little lick. We pick up her droppings every time and she has never acted aggressively toward anyone or anything.

The idiot over the road from us however, expect most of what you've said from his poor neglected dog. (Who by the way is very friendly when I kneel down and talk to him)
 
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Look I'm not saying its the dog's fault in most cases. I don't think dogs are evil. The reason I dislike dogs so much is that so many of them are owned by people who have no idea how to raise them properly. Again, that's not the dogs fault, but the end result is the same. That little boy is still dead, whether its the dogs fault or the owners.

I hate dogs charging at a fence and barking like mad at me when I'm walking past a house. I know it cant get me, but its damn intimidating when its a big dog. I hate dog muck fowling our pavements. And I absolutely despise people getting attacked and even killed by dogs and other people trying to brush it under the rug like it doesn't matter.... cause its not the dogs fault right? Like that makes it ok.

Equally, I hate people being attacked and beaten to death, raped, robbed, etc. etc. I know not everyone is like this and I know a lot of it is down to bad parenting etc. etc.

I hate the way some people live. The way they trash their properties, the squalor and filth they live in.

Can you see any parallels here?
 
Was out a few days ago and saw someone walking a dog with a strap over its mouth and my first thought was dangerous/aggressive - dog noticed me and was acting a bit strange and the guy started petting it and saw me looking said it gets nervous/overwhelmed easily especially around strangers and bites defensively - which was a perspective that never occurred to me before.

It's called "fear reactive".

A lot of kids are left to play with animals who are not taught that these animals are not toys. Dogs will almost always give signs that they are stressed before lashing out. What was the kid doing before the dog bit it? Pulling it's ears? Sitting on it's back? Something else of that nature? Dogs will show signs like moving away, showing the whites of it's eyes, licking its lips if under duress and these signs should not be ignored.

It is a terrible thing that has happened, not taking away from that but people too easily put full blame on the animal when likely, it isn't the case at all.
 
Look I'm not saying its the dog's fault in most cases. I don't think dogs are evil. The reason I dislike dogs so much is that so many of them are owned by people who have no idea how to raise them properly. Again, that's not the dogs fault, but the end result is the same. That little boy is still dead, whether its the dogs fault or the owners.

I hate dogs charging at a fence and barking like mad at me when I'm walking past a house. I know it cant get me, but its damn intimidating when its a big dog. I hate dog muck fowling our pavements. And I absolutely despise people getting attacked and even killed by dogs and other people trying to brush it under the rug like it doesn't matter.... cause its not the dogs fault right? Like that makes it ok.


Your entire first post was 'destroy the dog' as a solution, this post you concede it's the idiot owners fault. Hypothetically, we wouldn't put your parents in Jail for something you did because of how they brought you up.

Can you see why you're coming across a little inconsistent? :D

The number of attacks is a fraction of ownership.

I despise the number of people killed by other people, by cars, drugs etc..the solution isn't simply destroy them and remove access.
 
I have a 3 year old nephew and as much trust as I have with dogs, I would never leave him alone with them at any point.

My parents had a springer who we got as a pup when I was in my teens. Never had any problems with him other than if you were to approach him while eating his food.

They still had him when my son was born. The dog was protective and would go and stand outside the room where my son was if he was crying. He was also very patient and put up with having his ears pulled when my boy was a toddler. That being said I would never have left my son in a room with the dog unsupervised. It's just common sense.
 
Hypothetically, we wouldn't put your parents in Jail for something you did because of how they brought you up.

Maybe we should put parents in jail for their off spring's crimes if it could be proved they didn't do a good job of parenting - that doesn't change the fact that everyone responds to parenting differently and those wired with a mean streak, etc. won't necessarily be any different or completely changed even with the best parenting.
 
Your entire first post was 'destroy the dog' as a solution, this post you concede it's the idiot owners fault. Hypothetically, we wouldn't put your parents in Jail for something you did because of how they brought you up.

Can you see why you're coming across a little inconsistent? :D

I admit I worded it badly. Was a knee jerk reaction to my anger at reading that article. So my bad.

Essentially my argument boils down to:

Dogs dangerous due to owners sucking at dog care. Sucks for the dog, but I'd rather see a dogs life ended than a humans.

Not ALL dogs. Just the ones that act up.
 
It's mostly the owner and poor training / care of the animal. In the majority of these cases the fault lies with the owner.

That said, there are some dogs with inherent behavioural problems which can present severe challenges for even the most diligent of owners and trainers. It's not true that all dogs are equally a blank slate when it comes to being able to be properly trained. Whilst this isn't breed specific, certain breeds are more prone to behavioural problems than others (not all of them violent behavioural problems of course). This shouldn't come as a surprise when you consider that dog breeds are created via a process of constant in-breeding.
 
^^ That's exactly why there is a list of banned breeds.

There should also be a list of banned owners!

EDIT: Well, there is really but people should be added to it before their dog kills a child. I'd have been more than happy to go along for an assessment before we got our dog, to show we are good people that will take care of and love our dog.
 
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