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RX480 vs GTX1060

h4rm0ny said:
Incoming response comparing non-baseline products in 3..2..1... ;)

The important thing with a new card today when it comes to RAM, is that it's 4GB or more. 4GB vs. 6GB isn't going to gain you much. And whether or not that modest gain is worth the extra money is a question for the buyer. But what it does mean is that it's fine to consider the 480 4GB model in this discussion but not fine to consider the 3GB 1060 model because the latter is going to be badly hamstrung over the next eighteen months or so. Only the 6GB 1060 can be considered here whereas both 480s can be.
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To me the 4gb will last as long as the 1060 but for differing reasons. You can obviously lower settings but by and large you'll probably get the same about of use out of them.

The 8gb nitro or equivalent will probably last longer than the 1060 but for the next year it will run by and large slower on average.

The 4gb is obviously a lot cheaper.

The problem seems to be the 4gb is cost effective vs the 1060 and the 8gb beats it on longevity.
 
fastboy said:
your basing on reasons to buy the 480 as expectations?...expectations are just that,they are not set in stone,i live for the here and now and what works best now not in 'maybe' a years time.

ahh right the sweet spot just happens to be 4gb...weird that eh :)

yes if you have a freesync it makes perfect sense to buy a 480,i don't think anyone disputes that.

yes I wouldn't buy the 3gb model and I don't know quite what they were thinking in making that card.
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Sure live for the here and now but people learn from past mistakes and have seen what has happened over the last 3-4 years. People would be stupid if they never took this into consideration when weighing up what to buy.

What's funny is these arguments have been had before and all the people recommending the 1060 now probably recommended cards such as the gtx660/760/960. Guess what, all the people that recommended a red card at the time were proved right. It might not happen this time but i am sensing some major deja vu
 
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TheRealDeal said:
Sure live for the here and now but people learn from past mistakes and have seen what has happened over the last 3-4 years. People would be stupid if they never took this into consideration when weighing up what to buy.

What's funny is these arguments have been had before and all the people recommending the 1060 now probably recommended cards such as the gtx660/760/960. Guess what, all the people that recommended a red card at the time were proved right. It might not happen this time but i am sensing some major deja vu
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GTX660 and 760 were great cards.
 
remember all those people 'expecting' to see 1400mhz on the 480 at release day and 980 performance..how did those 'expectations' work out?

thats why I live in the here now,i believe what I can see now,not what the tooth fairy may or may not promise in the future...by the time these 'expectations' which may or may not come to fruit,my 1060 will be on ebay long sold and a new gen card will be sat in its place while people will be happy that there 480 has finally come of age :)
 
fastboy said:
remember all those people 'expecting' to see 1400mhz on the 480 at release day and 980 performance..how did those 'expectations' work out?

thats why I live in the here now,i believe what I can see now,not what the tooth fairy may or may not promise in the future...by the time these 'expectations' which may or may not come to fruit,my 1060 will be on ebay long sold and a new gen card will be sat in its place while people will be happy that there 480 has finally come of age :)
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Erm go over to techpowerup. With the new Trixx there is meant to be plenty getting 1450 core. With the unlocked bios and water there is people over 1500mhz. So going pretty well for those that want those clocks.
 
fastboy said:
read my post again..
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You keep saying the tooth fairy but if something keeps happening it's no longer made up. Expecting something that keeps happening all the time to happen again is not the same as a made up tooth fairy. What you are saying is ignore the past and live in hope that your new 1060 does not fall flat on it's butt in a years time like some of the others.

I don't know if you have a 1060 or not was just using that as an example. When Nvidia use cut down cards they usually don't do so well over time. The 1060 is not so cut down as a gtx960 but non the less these cut down cards usually hit a cliff and start falling off performance wise.

Any how am off out. This has been done and done again. It will be done again but i think the op has enough opinions to answer his question.
 
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fastboy said:
who said their cards are green?

the480 and 1060 trade blows in most games,performance wise not much in it..now have a think about this one:

you have 2 480's in a shop both the same card
card 1 runs at 80c and draws 180 watts
card 2 runs at 60c and draws 130 watts

give me a good reason for choosing card 1
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You're drawing all kinds of false equivalencies. Trading blows in some games doesn't put them on the same level, because people don't care about all games equally. So if you really care about Project Cars, yeah an AMD card is gonna be hard to choose, and likewise for Doom/Nvidia (and so on).

Lastly, let's say there is that difference in temps/power usage. So what? Unless you know what that translates to in terms of it affecting you, it's just a number. E.g. The card getting 5 degrees hotter means... ? Besides that the card is 5 degrees hotter. Will the db increase? And if so, by how much? Will it increase overall system temp? Will it decrease the components' lifespan? I mean, seriously, what will it do, and how significant will that be? Because just saying it's this much hotter means nothing, especially when we're talking about different pieces of hardware which will have different temp targets & other things.

Likewise for power, will that difference really mean anything? Because the overall power draw is so small, and the average PSU used has such high capacity in comparison, it's safe to say in 99% of cases the extra power draw on 1) won't mean you need a new PSU. In terms of cost, things are clearer, but once you do the math and realise that's maybe an extra £1 a month, is that really gonna sway you? Let's be real here.

Yeah, it's cool to point to numbers and notice one is bigger than another but there's also an interpretation to be done there, not to mention the scenarios that give you those numbers are gonna vary and fluctuate based on oh so many things.
 
All these mystics predicting the 480 lasting for 100 years sure are impressive, can you tell us the lottery numbers whilst you're at it?

Something no one has yet mentioned is that the 1060 promised 980 performance, which it achieves for the most part. The 480 also promised this, which was essentially a complete lie - a 390 beats in in most games!

The 1060 was an 80℅ performance gain over the 960 (a leap not seen before in the xx60 series). Therefore, why would this most powerful xx60 card ever suddenly fizzle to nothing in 2 years? I'm sure you can all somehow look into your crystal balls, alongside these 480 predictions, and somehow tell me though haha.

I also don't really see why you would buy a card with potentially better rformance for future games, but way worse for present ones, do you not enjoy gaming at present or something? Are you gonna bust out the 480 from storage in 2 years for the extra 2 games that support Vulcan?
 
I own a 1060 and the kids have a 480 in their pc,i wish I had gotten 2 1060's because the 480 runs waaay hotter than the 1060..i have penty of thermal headroom available should the NVidia tooth fairy bring us some more oc goodness,the 480 not so much because its throttling sometimes(yes its a stock 480 8gb so to be expected)

I don't care which colour card goes into the pc,as I said,pick a colour and buy it,either will be fine.

I change cards every 12 months or so so I'm happy with what I have now...maybe in 12 months new cards will be out who knows...so just buy whatever suits you..its really that simple.
 
TheRealDeal said:
At launch they were not bad but they are well and trully dead compared to a 7950 and 7870. Hell a 7950 oc is still a decent card.
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I'm still using a GTX 660. What more, I'm running it at 1440p and getting 60 fps on High settings in most of the games I currently play. Admittedly the games aren't that new (Borderlands Pre-Sequel, ME3, Skyrim, MMOs, Life Is Strange etc). It even handles Overwatch fairly well at 1440p (was immaculate at 1200p before I upgraded the monitor). It won't of course handle Witcher 3 which is why I've got that game on the back burner until I upgrade the GPU. And of course it won't run the new Deus Ex, but it seems even a 1080 struggles with that in its current release state.

Anyway the point is, there's a lot of hot air exchanged here about card longevity and it really does depend on the type of games you play and whether you absolutely must play at Ultra and greater than 60 fps.

Personally I'm trying to decide between the 1060 and RX 480 so this thread is useful, fanboy handbag fights aside. And yes, I know the 1070 is what I really need for 1440p, but I can't really stretch to that.

Don't dismiss things like heat, fan noise and power draw, they are important to some people. For me, these are the biggest negatives of the RX 480 compared to the 1060.
 
In those Deus Ex comparisons, the RX 480 might have higher framerate but it's also got more stuttering. The 1060 footage looks smoother. To be fair, the game isn't exactly silky smooth on either, they clearly still need to do a lot of work on it.
 
Cern said:
In those Deus Ex comparisons, the RX 480 might have higher framerate but it's also got more stuttering. The 1060 footage looks smoother. To be fair, the game isn't exactly silky smooth on either, they clearly still need to do a lot of work on it.
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Both looked smooth on my end tbh
Think what you seeing is screen tear
 
shankly1985 said:
Both looked smooth on my end tbh
Think what you seeing is screen tear
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Look at the opening panning shot in the Digital Foundry comparison, the RX 480 has lots of stuttering. A good place to watch is the top left, as the lanterns and neon signs pan across.
 
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