What are people's thoughts on the burkini ban in France?

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As thread title, this hasn't been discussed in here i don't think. Will it happen in this country?

I don't think any religious clothing like this should be allowed, especially as it promotes oppression.

If this thread is closed i would like to know why, as it is a valid discussion\topic and could have a big impact on who leads France after their elections next year.

http://www.france24.com/en/20160828...ies-presidential-election-sarkozy-juppe-valls

"Former president Nicolas Sarkozy, who announced this week he is seeking the conservative nomination, has called for a law banning burkinis “on the entire territory of the Republic” – and others in his camp have followed suit."
 
I think "Liberté, égalité, fraternité." are more than just words, so the court ruling that declared it illegal is the right decision.

Telling people what they're allowed to wear and claiming it is to help prevent them being oppressed is not exactly a well thought-through policy.
 
Their country, their rules, they can do what they like. If Sarkozy gets in then you'll know what the majority want. After all the attacks there lately I don't blame them.
 
Did you not just contradict yourself Caged, your saying it's the right legal decision yet you shouldn't tell people what to wear?


Not living in big cities where this is obvious it not an issue for me at the moment, I suppose if it creates tensions then maybe a wise idea to ban it, it's all about this trying to accommodate everyones views and beliefs in one boiling pot. It all goes in peaks and troughs.
 
Caged said:
I think "Liberté, égalité, fraternité." are more than just words, so the court ruling that declared it illegal is the right decision.

Telling people what they're allowed to wear and claiming it is to help prevent them being oppressed is not exactly a well thought-through policy.
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You missed off Laïcité

“France shall be an indivisible, secular, democratic and social Republic. It shall ensure the equality of all citizens before the law, without distinction of origin, race or religion. It shall respect all beliefs. It shall be organised on a decentralised basis.”
 
I don't like them or any force face/head covering garments.

But it's not my right to impose my opinion on someone else...

The people who ascribe to wearing these items of clothing would claim the opposite of you... supposedly offering more freedom by attempting to remove temptation from the equation.

I don't agree with that viewpoint, but then I don't have to.

What I do object to is people wearing them in higher security places like airports, banks, petrol station... etc... you're not allowed to wear a motorbike helmet in there - why should this covering clothing be allowed?

If a "western" woman goes to most of the countries that forces the adornment of these items of clothing... she will generally be forced to wear something similar or be faced with abuse / assault and in a few cases even death.

But they come to visit and no change is made.

At least with the burkini... you can see their face. I really dislike it when you can't read someone's emotions when you're interacting with them.

I'm surprised there haven't been more robberies with people dressing up in that clothing as they can pass so much more freely than a ski mask / helmet. Heck... even hoodies are banned in some places.
 
scorza said:
I'm against any symbol of division in society - so support the burkini ban.
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Ive never been terrorized by someone in a burkini at a beach... However I have been terrorized by images of people in speedos or getting starkers while they publicly change on a beach.

How can a burkini be banned but people in full body wet suits or snorkeling gear be fine LMAO
 
The law exists even for flapping governments? Shock and horror!

Caged said:
I think "Liberté, égalité, fraternité." are more than just words, so the court ruling that declared it illegal is the right decision.

Telling people what they're allowed to wear and claiming it is to help prevent them being oppressed is not exactly a well thought-through policy.
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And you can still wear a headscarf, nor are you stopped from going to the beach or in the water fully dressed, though a lifeguard might have a chat to make sure you know the risks. :p What's next? Jews told to put away the Kippa, and Christians to avoid flashing bling in public? Mediterraneans told to lighten up and use less body language? Farcical. Liberty comes first in that order, and the latter two do not mean erasure of individual identities and all difference, as much as scorzas of the world would like to think that they do.
 
It's fear. They get blown up a few times.
It's natural to be wary of people who you can't see or fall into the realms of those committing such atrocities.

It's only natural. Why wear a Burkini anyway if the intention is to sunbathe? It's common sense you won't get the effects of the sun. So in a way it's also educating people?

You've got to look at both sides of the story. I don't trust anyone who I can't see. It's a respect thing. I always take off any face covering I have if talking to someone. And no... I don't sunbathe in jeans and t-shirts. :P
 
I genuinely can't understand why there is any concern? It doesn't cover their face so they are identifiable..

I'm more offended by people wearing inappropriate 'professional' attire at work.
 
helpimcrap said:
It's only natural. Why wear a Burkini anyway if the intention is to sunbathe?
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Not everyone goes to the beach to sunbathe, id say out of the hundreds of times I have been to the beach over the past few years id say I can count on one hand the amount of times i was there to sunbathe.

Plus im pretty sure parasols are a thing, seen so many people sat under them. Some people just like to see the sea.
 
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