It's not just dodgy back street takeaway owners that operate shady, yet within the law, practices. All the big companies like Amazon, Vodafone, eBay, Mike Ashley, etc all operating in gray area.
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It's not just dodgy back street takeaway owners that operate shady, yet within the law, practices. All the big companies like Amazon, Vodafone, eBay, Mike Ashley, etc all operating in gray area.
Not getting that at all, I understand bailiffs can identify themselves as bailiffs serving out a high court rit but that website I linked:
http://www.dealingwithbailiffs.co.uk/bailiffimpersonatingpolice.html
shows how bailiffs impersonating a police officer even by wearing a similar marking (chequer board pattern) as the police do, is a criminal offence, so a guy simply made a whole website/forum and detailed information on how to report that criminal offence just made it all up ?
Or is this why bailiffs are no longer wearing that pattern on their clothing recently ?
Either way you are right I was wrong to say its illegal outright, should have meant should be made illegal to look like a copper so have edited the post to reflect this.
Still reckon they look like coppers and its wrong even if no one else on here does
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I like how they have conveniently cut the top picture so you can't see the big sign on their chests saying what they are
The body armor is probably standard issue, hence the likeness. Sure, the shoulder bands make it look police issue but like said above, you can't really miss the big 'High Court Enforcement' badges, and the lack of 'POLICE' badges.
Am not disputing what the big sign signs on their chest says that is very obvious to read and see, I am discussing if someone can wear similar or appear to be the police.
The law states;
(4)In this section—
(a)“article of police uniform” means any article of uniform or any distinctive badge or mark or document of identification usually issued to members of police forces or special constables, or anything having the appearance of such an article, badge, mark or document,
So like that website clearly states, if a bailiff wore that same marking ie the chess board pattern that is a criminal offence ?
The law states;
(4)In this section—
(a)“article of police uniform” means any article of uniform or any distinctive badge or mark or document of identification usually issued to members of police forces or special constables, or anything having the appearance of such an article, badge, mark or document,
So like that website clearly states, if a bailiff wore that same marking ie the chess board pattern that is a criminal offence ?
Th kid was also being a complete arse, just like how he left the van after being rented, instead of returning it to the rental place, he left it for two weeks on a side street and would not tell them.
His brother being sensible tried to help, but his family were threatening to hurt the bailiffs, Once the police came it was resolved in minutes.
"in circumstances where it gives him an appearance so nearly resembling that of a member of a police force as to be calculated to deceive"
They've got a badge on saying what they are, so they're not nearly resembling to be calculated to decieve, so no offence.
So I can dress like a copper but as long as I wear a sign or badge saying some body else, then I can get away with it ?
Can't wait to pull a bank job
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Ok so that site was wrong, but no one seeing in-between the lines here or its just me ?
That cyclist uniform says POLITE like POLICE, so in other words if your driving behind someone wearing it you maybe fooled into thinking its a police officer on a bike, so you must be extra careful in over taking him or giving him space to ride on, since no one wants to run over a copper.
Whole world gone deceptive and cashing in, not to mention everyone looks like a copper, probably the only way to survive at this point lol
That cyclist uniform says POLITE like POLICE, so in other words if your driving behind someone wearing it you maybe fooled into thinking its a police officer on a bike, so you must be extra careful in over taking him or giving him space to ride on, since no one wants to run over a copper.
Whole world gone deceptive and cashing in, not to mention everyone looks like a copper, probably the only way to survive at this point lol
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Without going into great detail I can confirm that 18 years ago I was involved in an incident where I thought 5 security guards were Coppers and it ended up being one the worst evenings of my life that probably took 10 years off my life
They really did look like Coppers back then.
Being somewhat callous, if you set out to rack up a large amount of debt by putting all purchases in someone else,s name so you dont have anything in your name so nothing to sieze
Can the HCEO or claimant go down the route of placing an attachment against the property you live in, obviously if it is not rented? I presume this requires a different court order
Also if they deem that the debtor cannot pay for what ever reason, I am led to belive that the debt doesn't just go away, is this correct?
Can the HCEO or claimant go down the route of placing an attachment against the property you live in, obviously if it is not rented? I presume this requires a different court order
Also if they deem that the debtor cannot pay for what ever reason, I am led to belive that the debt doesn't just go away, is this correct?
If the debt is not in your name, then no there's nothing they can do to you - besides they wouldn't be pursuing you for the debt, they would be pursuing whoever the debt is registered to.
For example, if you used a friends credit cart and racked up loads of debt. They would be the one that the HCEO's would be chasing not you. (not saying you'd get off scott free, it's down to the debtor then to report a crime of theft in that case). But ultimately they owned the credit card, they're now liable for the debt.
Correct, debts are unlikely to be just forgotten. I believe the HCEO's can only do so much - at the end of the day, if the person has no money, or goods that can be seized, then they can't pursue the debt much further. This would then go back to the claimant to pursue other routes, for example making the debtor bankrupt. I believe the court can also issue an order (forgot the legal term) against your property, so that when it is sold, £xyz automatically goes to the claimant.
They may not be able to do something to you long term since the debts not in your name but it won't stop them making your life miserable, they will clamp the cars outside your house, even if its not yours and take it away (seen it on one episode before!) they can get into the property, shift through your personal belongings and bank statements and photo id all goods, call up lorries saying they are on route to take everything in the house away etc
Bailiffs cause a moral compass break down for myself and just like many others, it looks so wrong in the manner they do it but at the same time if you are rightfully owed money I would want every last penny back which ever way possible!
As someone said a few pages back this type of TV viewing is referred to as
'Poverty Porn', they put sympathy on a plate, we eat it and then either feel guilty about it or love it.
Bailiffs cause a moral compass break down for myself and just like many others, it looks so wrong in the manner they do it but at the same time if you are rightfully owed money I would want every last penny back which ever way possible!
As someone said a few pages back this type of TV viewing is referred to as
'Poverty Porn', they put sympathy on a plate, we eat it and then either feel guilty about it or love it.
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So I can dress like a copper but as long as I wear a sign or badge saying some body else, then I can get away with it ?
Can't wait to pull a bank job
But they dont look like coppers, only to you. Because you must have a problem with bailiffs or something?
There are some people on the show who have fallen on hard times and have made mistakes, and an awful lot are just total scumbags who think they can get away without paying bills or landlords... life doesn't work like that im afraid.
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Even a van they use on the Bohill episodes has a "police force" type shield/badge on the front of it. Making it look like it's some sort of official vehicle, when it's not, it's just a van owned by a private company who collect debts.
Anyone see the latest episode ?
That old pensioner working at 80 years old in a tailor shop while he just sold his flat for 715k, nothing remotely dodgy here
He still was unwilling to pay the 30k debt off, cheeky old millionaire git !
could have been mortgaged to the hilt though.
I think you're being a bit pedantic about it. It's hardly like it has blue and yellow chequered patterns down the side, or a blue light on top, or even "POLICE" written anywhere over it.
I've seen quite a few episodes with that van, and i'd not even noticed this "shield/badge" thing you refer to.