Too many magistrates in England and Wales are "old and white"

As it's pot luck what magistrate you get, isn't this pointless? Are we going to see defendants 'race-matched' with a magistrate in future to ensure fairness? Sounds silly but I'm sure some of the BLM folks would approve.

It's pot luck, but the idea of having a cross section of the magistrates that roughly matches the local population is that there will at least be a reasonable chance that out of the 3 you normally get in a sitting one of them will be nearer your background.

Magistrates also talk to each other and learn from each other, so having members of the bench from different backgrounds means that they do pick things up.

This is nothing to do with BLM or any other rubbish, it's about trying to make sure that the judiciary is able to understand the people it's dealing with as well as the law.
For example is someone turning up to the court in grubby clothes being disrespectful, or simply coming to the court straight from work?*
Or is someone turning up in a "funny" looking outfit not bothering, or wearing something that they consider respectful.

Having members who are mainly older and from a specific group means they don't have the same life experiences or may not be able to understand some subtleties of parts of the society they are dealing with, diversity therefore is not only good but necessary for the group as a whole to do the best it can.

It's a bit like the police force, where the move from mainly one group making up most of the officers to a wider variety led to things like crimes against women being taken more seriously, and women (and ethnic minorities) being more willing to talk to them about sensitive stuff.



*One serving magistrate posted a great example on his blog of how someone who at first glance may be being disrespectful to the court, had in fact already appreciated the sentence he was likely to get (driving ban) and had managed to change his job to allow for that, by moving from a driving role to a yard job at his work and was already working longer hours to make up for the loss of income (this is from memory). So far from being disrespectful of the court, he was showing he was serious about understanding what was going on.
 
Yet the UK population is 87.1% white, I see no problem with this.

funny that, the way people have been carrying on inhere you'd think that 87.1% of the population wasn't white................... but they won't let facts like that get in the way of their xenophobic goose step to freedom..............
 
The 'being of good character' part might be difficult to satisfy as there are a larger proportion of non whites with criminal records or bad characters in the areas with the highest levels of diversity.

In terms of impartiality and social isdue awareness, the last thing you need are Sharia cops taking over making it impossible for people of diverse races to bring their cases forward for fear of sharia reprisal on a social level...
 
The 'being of good character' part might be difficult to satisfy as there are a larger proportion of non whites with criminal records or bad characters in the areas with the highest levels of diversity.

In such an area you can't find a number of people who have no serious crimes, list of minor offences, long-term driving bans or bankruptcy against their name?
 
The 'being of good character' part might be difficult to satisfy as there are a larger proportion of non whites with criminal records or bad characters in the areas with the highest levels of diversity.

In terms of impartiality and social isdue awareness, the last thing you need are Sharia cops taking over making it impossible for people of diverse races to bring their cases forward for fear of sharia reprisal on a social level...

#casualracism
 
funny that, the way people have been carrying on inhere you'd think that 87.1% of the population wasn't white................... but they won't let facts like that get in the way of their xenophobic goose step to freedom..............

Well that figure probably isn't far off for population growth rather than population itself, so people may well have cause for concern especially if they grew up in places like Leicester or Bradford.

Between 2001 and 2011 the white population increased 1.5 million and ethnic minority population increased 2.9 million. 65% of new people were ethnic minority. If you follow the curve since 2011 it's probably higher than that now.
 
The 'being of good character' part might be difficult to satisfy as there are a larger proportion of non whites with criminal records or bad characters in the areas with the highest levels of diversity.

In terms of impartiality and social isdue awareness, the last thing you need are Sharia cops taking over making it impossible for people of diverse races to bring their cases forward for fear of sharia reprisal on a social level...

You mean, highest levels of poverty right?

Oh, and what are you talking about regarding Sharia.

The reality of the situation is there is a recruitment issue amongst the young and potentially ethnic minority. Probably in part because a lot of people may get into magistry(?) through word of mouth, or similar.

Note: There is a distinct difference between preferential hiring/picking people due to age/race/background and aiming recruitment drives at certain groups.
 
Well that figure probably isn't far off for population growth rather than population itself, so people may well have cause for concern especially if they grew up in places like Leicester or Bradford.

Between 2001 and 2011 the white population increased 1.5 million and ethnic minority population increased 2.9 million. 65% of new people were ethnic minority. If you follow the curve since 2011 it's probably higher than that now.

And what does skin colour have to do with anything?
 
Well that figure probably isn't far off for population growth rather than population itself, so people may well have cause for concern especially if they grew up in places like Leicester or Bradford.

Between 2001 and 2011 the white population increased 1.5 million and ethnic minority population increased 2.9 million. 65% of new people were ethnic minority. If you follow the curve since 2011 it's probably higher than that now.

Grew up in Leicester, have no concern about there being a 'rise' in 'non whites' :confused:.

Are you concerned?
 
MPs are calling for urgent action over figures that show 86% of magistrates are aged 50 or over and 89% are white.

well the age thing is understandable as you'd expect them to have some life experience and older people might well be recently retired or semi retired

though the % white thing - all parts of the UK are a bit over 9*-something % white so if anything white people are slightly underrepresented among magistrates

what would be interesting are the data re: gender
 
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