Apple to Introduce New Macs at October 27 Event

The last few MBPs (probably MBs and MBAs too) have been un-upgradeable. Soldered RAM and SSDs meant you had to pay the "Apple tax" and get your upgrades at the beginning.

TBF it's not just apple doing that, most of the ultrabooks are doing similar.

I would have bought an HP Spectre x360 at the weekend if i could have upgraded the memory to 16GB
 
Or you can buy a 3rd party one for £7

If its so cheap why can't they include it for a £4,000 machine. Its that the extension cable is expensive, its the principle, Apple is going too crazy lengths to save pennies now and ruining the customer experience along with it.
 
If its so cheap why can't they include it for a £4,000 machine. Its that the extension cable is expensive, its the principle, Apple is going too crazy lengths to save pennies now and ruining the customer experience along with it.

I am not disagreeing with you. But it's no different go going to a BMW garage and spending 90k on a car and having to pay extra for floor mats! :p

Or buying a printer and no USB cable is included.

They're not the first company to do this.
 
They are not the first company to do this but thats a little akin to apple not including an adaptor for 3.55mm headphones with the new iPhone. It would just have been a massive **** move. Its not like a sd card reader which most people don't use. Its a laptop. It needs charging. How many people sit 2m or less from a socket. It would just about be long enough if I was at my desk.

Its penny pinching in the extreme. They are already asking us to buy adaptors which is fair enough but sticking another 3m long cable or just replacing the 2m one with a 3m one would have been nice.

The better question is why wouldn't they just include a longer cable?
 
This may be a little off topic, but for those of us who are moving away - which device are you looking at? It seems like the Dell XPS series is recommended as the closest <£1.5k match but not sure oh the quality of the screen.
 
I'm a macbook air user as I don't have a need for a pro other than the desire for a high resolution screen (it's annoying as the macbook would be fine if it weren't for the dire performance).

I'm going to wait for the next macbook refresh but I'm tempted to get a razer blade stealth instead.
 
This may be a little off topic, but for those of us who are moving away - which device are you looking at? It seems like the Dell XPS series is recommended as the closest <£1.5k match but not sure oh the quality of the screen.

I had an XPS 15 at the start of the year.

The screen is great (I had he 4K one)... I just didn't like the rubbery plastic finish - felt horrible to me

If you want quad core, then razer blade is the best alternative. If you're ok with dual core and want epic battery life, the surface book is a good choice.

I'm struggling to pick between them at the moment, but think I'm leaning toward the surface book for the battery life and stylus.

If you want the razer / MacBook like finish to the build quality - but get a cheaper option then the razer blade stealth
 
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This may be a little off topic, but for those of us who are moving away - which device are you looking at? It seems like the Dell XPS series is recommended as the closest <£1.5k match but not sure oh the quality of the screen.

The Dell Precisions are a nice. They start at 15" though.
 
This may be a little off topic, but for those of us who are moving away - which device are you looking at? It seems like the Dell XPS series is recommended as the closest <£1.5k match but not sure oh the quality of the screen.

I have an XPS13 for work and the screen is fantastic, especially the QHD+ resolution one.
Only comment really is I have had some older programs that do not scale nicely with the high resolution, but with modern apps it is generally OK.
Touchpad is also overly sensitive, but not found a Windows laptop yet with one as nice as Apple.
The XPS13 is now also available with KabyLake CPUs.
 
A crumby old black figure 8 connector doesn't really compare to the wonderfully engineered power supply unit that Apple have provided with their laptops until now.

I honestly think Apple have misjudged this. It's always been the little things, such as the two options for the power brick, which have helped keep them in such high regard with the masses and give the impression of real quality when you purchase an Apple product. Mac Minis are also no longer supplied with display adapters.

Obviously a numbers guy at the company has crunched the numbers and said 'We can save $X-million dollars if we stop supplying the longer cable which only x% of users use'. To me, though, that's really not Apple. Or at least, it shouldn't be.
 
The GPU in the stealth is putting me off though and i can't be bothered with the box extra box.

I am torn between spending 1200 on a laptop, or just getting a new phone and a sub 400 quid laptop
 
If you want the razer / MacBook like finish to the build quality - but get a cheaper option then the razer blade stealth

I'd pick one up tomorrow if it was 13.3" but 12.5" is just too small for me.

Will keep looking. I'll probably end up back with a MBP but £1.5k with student discount is crazy considering the specs. Entry level won't last me very long unfortunately. So frustrating!

I have an XPS13 for work and the screen is fantastic, especially the QHD+ resolution one.

Would you go for the QHD over the FHD then? Don't suppose you've done much entry level gaming on it?
 
The £1.5k MacBook after student discount IS the entry level one now ;)

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These are the 13" MBP pricing. Unless I'm missing something? Still sucks :p
 
Obviously a numbers guy at the company has crunched the numbers and said 'We can save $X-million dollars if we stop supplying the longer cable which only x% of users use'. To me, though, that's really not Apple. Or at least, it shouldn't be.

Just a thought.. it could also be a tech guy saying "Our batteries are getting knackered because people leave their laptop senselessly on power all the time, how do we gently encourage people to experience the all day battery life?"

And so they make it like your phone, you charge it when you're not using it?

Just a thought, I mean the extra they'll make/save is likely a rounding error on a rounding error in relation to their overall profitability.
 
Would you go for the QHD over the FHD then? Don't suppose you've done much entry level gaming on it?

No gaming on at all unfortunately, partly as it is a work laptop, partly as I do not game at all anyway!
I've only tested the QHD on the XPS13, but compared to other 13" models at FHD it is a lot sharper and clearer and obviously closer to the 'Retina' displays on the Macbooks.
If it was me, I would go for the QHD panel as I would use it for Lightroom etc so the better sharpness etc is a bonus.
 
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