Oh, we're happy to criticize our government, but what I saw upstream wasn't criticizing the US government... it was directed at Americans.
Big difference imo.
Former Cuba leader Fidel Castro dead aged 90
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Oh, we're happy to criticize our government, but what I saw upstream wasn't criticizing the US government... it was directed at Americans.
Big difference imo.
Maybe because its been 60 years of no actual criticism, if there was a valid criticism, Iraq would never have occurred and probably 9/11 aswell considering it was a direct consequence of funding the Al-sauds and the Mujahideen. So yes, i blame all Americans for the state of the world, you have the mantle of power and abuse it.
Infant mortality is worse in America than Cuba!!
Cuba most certainly has issues but healthcare/doctors isn't one of them.
They have an abundance of highly qualified (educated for free in Cuba) of excellent doctors, whenever their is a disaster in the world Cuba are one of the first if not the first to send out large humanitarian teams to help!!
Don't believe all the Wests propaganda about Castro and Cuba, his not as bad as they make out and has achieved some amazing things for the country!!
America has WORSE infant mortality than Cuba:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2091rank.html
Cuba’s extraordinary global medical record shames the US blockade
Source = https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/03/cuba-global-medical-record-shames-us-blockade-ebola
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...d-human-rights-mourn-fidel-castro-man-killed/
Article pretty much says it all. He was an awful human being. He largely acted purely out of spite for America which, lets face it, seems to be the only reason anyone on here has mourned his passing.
He was not a good man. He was not a great man. He was a self-appointed dictator who has headed a violent kleptocracy.
Cuban medics in Haiti put the world to shame
No one is saying he was perfect but to make out his some sort of evil scum bag is absurd, he has done some amazing humanitarian work both in his country and around the world.
Source = http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/cuban-medics-in-haiti-put-the-world-to-shame-2169415.html
No one is saying he was perfect but to make out his some sort of evil scum bag is absurd, he has done some amazing humanitarian work both in his country and around the world.
Let's see what Noam Chomsky thinks:
It's articles that are stating facts and reality, are you saying they haven't been sending out teams of doctors all around the world and saving lives ???
Is that some sort of big conspiracy
As I've stated the man has his flaws but to deny the amazing and life saving work he and his country have done around the world is pretty disgusting tbh!
What have you done to help people on the other side of the planet ????
It's articles that are stating facts and reality, are you saying they haven't been sending out teams of doctors all around the world and saving lives ???
Is that some sort of big conspiracy
As I've stated the man has his flaws but to deny the amazing and life saving work he and his country have done around the world is pretty disgusting tbh!
What have you done to help people on the other side of the planet ????
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Compared to every other Caribbean/south american leader during that time-frame, he was an absolute saint. Night an day difference when you compare other countries in the Caribbean, Haiti being a prime example what corporations can do to a country.
Let's see what Noam Chomsky thinks:
It's articles that are stating facts and reality, are you saying they haven't been sending out teams of doctors all around the world and saving lives ???
Is that some sort of big conspiracy
As I've stated the man has his flaws but to deny the amazing and life saving work he and his country have done around the world is pretty disgusting tbh!
What have you done to help people on the other side of the planet ????
Are you denying that he has had thousands of murders committed? That he stole power? You're a complete hypocrite. Utterly pathetic.
Any killings attributed to him were prisoners from the Batista regime, who murdered people themselves. He then mass pardoned hundreds of people in the 70s after caving in to Carter.
You seriously need to stop looking at the world in black and white. There is no world leader in history that has a spotless record, especially dictators. But he used his powers for the betterment of Cubans, not their detriment like neighbouring countries.
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Just seen this on twitter
Castro: I will not die until America is destroyed
Trump: I'm gonna be the president
Castro: Well then
Castro: I will not die until America is destroyed
Trump: I'm gonna be the president
Castro: Well then
What like an illegal war in Iraq that resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths/murders!!
Just because these leaders and countries are supposedly 'good guys' it doesn't make the innocent victims any less important or significant.
Us (the west) have very little moral high ground at the moment and really shouldn't be going around pointing fingers when ours are still covered in warm wet blood!!
Fidel Castro in context
Source = http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2016/11/cloneofcloneoffidel-castro-context-2014331257121-161126054211145.html
Just because these leaders and countries are supposedly 'good guys' it doesn't make the innocent victims any less important or significant.
Us (the west) have very little moral high ground at the moment and really shouldn't be going around pointing fingers when ours are still covered in warm wet blood!!
Fidel Castro in context
Source = http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2016/11/cloneofcloneoffidel-castro-context-2014331257121-161126054211145.html
Lol. You literally cannot help but try and bash the US. You're a stuck record. This has nothing to do with them.
And just how do you think he took power? Illegally! You're not very bright are you?
And diamount, your statements are factually incorrect.
And just how do you think he took power? Illegally! You're not very bright are you?
And diamount, your statements are factually incorrect.
You accuse people of being a broken record yet you haven't provided a single source on why Castro is such a monster, ignoring what a tumultuous time Castro is in with the CIA trying to whack him every 5 minutes.. his was incredibly lenient. Compare that to Pinochet... complete saint.
I've provided several links throughout the thread.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB113590852154334404
There's another for you.
http://cubanexilequarter.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/the-rising-body-count-in-cuba.html
And another.
First link is locked behind a paywall.
Second, if anything downplays your point. As stated previously - the vast majority of killings attributed to the Castro regime was in the first 10-20 years. They were also documented unlike the secret-back-door executions, then there is the killing of insurgents during 1960-66, which I don't agree with. But they weren't innocent civilians, their form of protest was putting a bullet in your head.
After that period however, Cuba was relatively stable and prospering (as well it could with the embargo). Show me any post-revolutionary country that did better.
Second, if anything downplays your point. As stated previously - the vast majority of killings attributed to the Castro regime was in the first 10-20 years. They were also documented unlike the secret-back-door executions, then there is the killing of insurgents during 1960-66, which I don't agree with. But they weren't innocent civilians, their form of protest was putting a bullet in your head.
After that period however, Cuba was relatively stable and prospering (as well it could with the embargo). Show me any post-revolutionary country that did better.
This was Momentum's response:
I find it disappointing how organisations that are supposedly Social Democratic have such a soft spot for the dictatorships of the Communist left. Many of the comments are even more depressing. Castro was one of the better dictators of the twentieth century; but let's not pretend that makes him anything other than awful.
In 1959, the Cuban people, led by Fidel Castro, overthrew a corrupt dictator and began a process of enormous improvements in their lives, especially in education and healthcare. Despite international isolation and US aggression, Cuba has remained resolutely internationalist, contributing greatly to the struggles for freedom in Southern Africa and throughout the world.
This proud internationalist legacy lives on with Cuban health workers playing a significant role in combatting the Ebola outbreak in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea.
Cuban society - and the system of government instituted under Fidel Castro - are far from perfect but the Cuban people's struggle for a free and just world continues and is an inspiration to many.
RIP Fidel Castro; Viva the Cuban people.
This proud internationalist legacy lives on with Cuban health workers playing a significant role in combatting the Ebola outbreak in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea.
Cuban society - and the system of government instituted under Fidel Castro - are far from perfect but the Cuban people's struggle for a free and just world continues and is an inspiration to many.
RIP Fidel Castro; Viva the Cuban people.
I find it disappointing how organisations that are supposedly Social Democratic have such a soft spot for the dictatorships of the Communist left. Many of the comments are even more depressing. Castro was one of the better dictators of the twentieth century; but let's not pretend that makes him anything other than awful.
It was stable because anyone who objected to his rule was executed or disappeared ffs!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_dissident_movement
"According to Human Rights Watch, the Cuban government represses nearly all forms of political dissent."
"The island was the second largest prison in the world for journalists in 2008"
"In 2012, Amnesty International warned that repression of Cuban dissidents was on the rise over the past two years, citing the Wilmar Villar hunger strike death, as well as the arrests of prisoners of conscience Yasmin Conyedo Riveron, Yusmani Rafael Alvarez Esmori, and Antonio Michel and Marcos Máiquel Lima Cruz.[18] The Cuban Commission of Human Rights reported that there were 6,602 detentions of government opponents in 2012, up from 4,123 in 2011."
That's what happens when you allow education systems to run rife with Marxists and Statists.
