New £5 note angers vegans and vegetarians

On thing I can give the vegan, they have taught me an awful lot about animal fat usage in cattle today, nice one! Another one for my sock draw! :D
 
I saw the headline on BBC news today about the fiver bothering vegetarians.

Why on earth are they eating the notes?

Vegans being bothered about it is something I can understand. I don't care, but I do understand.
 
Simple they should just not use them although i am confused why Vegetarians are so upset. Vegans I can understand.

In fact I don't understand vegetarians full stop. If you have an issue with animal farming then surely its Vegan or nothing?

People draw lines regarding what they do and don't allow all the time. Those lines are rarely entirely objective and wholly rational because people aren't. Besides, there's almost always some scope for some degree of graduation in a position.
 
I'm vegetarian. Why so much hatred for me? I don't like seeing animals suffer or being killed unnecessarily. Does that make me a terrible person deserving of two pages of hate-posts?

It seems unlikely that tallow is necessary for making the banknotes, so why shouldn't people who care about animals speak up and ask for an alternative to be found? You'd think vegetarians were pooing through people's letter boxes based on some of the posts in this thread!

Read the text of the petition. They're not asking. They're demanding immediate obedience.

If you (generic "you" in this context) go up to people and demand they obey your orders right now and it's terrible and shocking that they aren't obeying you immediately, you are likely to get a defensive response and they'll be more likely to dig in and stick to their position.

You personally probably don't do that. You personally are probably reasonable because you're probably after a mutually agreeable solution. These people aren't after a mutually agreeable solution. They're after a fight in which they can impose their dominance on other people. They're bullies.
 
Probably going to upset uber religious Hinuds too. The notes are not likely hala or kosher either... still it isn't like you have to eat them nor really own the things other than temporarily.

Some of these vegans really do need to get a grip.
 
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Soon when the rest of the notes are converted to plastic we'll be able to spot them as they will be the ones paying for everything in coins.

There are usually traces of animal products on coins too.

For example...I ate a corned beef pasty today. There were animal products in the filling and probably in the pastry too. I wasn't wearing gloves andI didn't scrub my hands surgeon-style after eating the pasty, so when I bought a sandwich soon afterwards I would have transferred traces of animal products to the coins I used to pay for it. They went in a till in the shop, so they would have touched other coins and transferred traces of animal products to those coins.

I suggest that vegans wear NBC suits at all times, but only after careful investigation to see if there might possibly be a couple of parts per million of animal products in NBC suits.
 
It seems unlikely that tallow is necessary for making the banknotes, so why shouldn't people who care about animals speak up and ask for an alternative to be found?

why should what is effectively an industrial waste product not be used?

seems insane that you wish to produce something new rather than recycle waste.

why should those of us that care about the environment not speak up and ask for the least wasteful option be used?
 
I think title needs to be renamed to 'A very small fraction of vegans/vegetarians are angered by use of animal products in every day things'

Hmmm, no change there.
 
not a vegan myself but this summed it up for me

" I guess I'll care more when the animal slaughter industry is driven by demand for currency polymer grade tallow and not unsustainable diets."


Quite the £5 is the least of your problems if you give a **** about the ethical treatment of animals.
 
So can I start using thinly sliced ham as money? maybe a chunky slice of Gammon instead of a £20 note?

technically yes, given what money represents if you can find someone that sees value in said thinly sliced ham, they may trade with you. It's not like the Ham grew on a tree now is it. It had value as a pig and has more value cured as a ham. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
Some people are absolute retards. :rolleyes:

Tallow is also used in flux for soldering so best get binning them mobile phones, TVs, computers etc as anything with a soldered component on will contain trace amounts of tallow.

As for the animals lovers tallow is a by product of cow deconstruction, once the meaty flesh as been removed for my consumption, the rest is used in the most efficient way possible to eliminate waste.

I don't care what you eat, you can chew on corn kernels all day as far as I care.
But don't start with "my £5 note has animal product in it its not right"
As the device you are using to complain probably contains more tallow than a 100 £5 notes.

I would say ********** but a vegan ********* needs another term altogether, idiots. :mad:

Nailed it!!! Thanks bro, you've pretty much summed up my feeling on this! :D
 
So..

Just half heard on radio so please correct me if I'm wrong.

Apparently this tallow or tallow derivative is also found in tyres.

So all vegans and vegetarians don't drive, bike or cycle and refuse to use public transport also?
 
So..

Just half heard on radio so please correct me if I'm wrong.

Apparently this tallow or tallow derivative is also found in tyres.

So all vegans and vegetarians don't drive, bike or cycle and refuse to use public transport also?

Once again, Vegetarians don't (or if some do, shouldn't) give a ****. Vegans do.
 
More than 1,700 people so far have signed a petition demanding that the substance is no longer used in the production of the currency.

Can someone not tell these 1700 people to get a life?

If you solely object to it, then it's simple, just don't use it. You can get away with card purchases for most things of this day and age, and for small items, you can use coins.
 
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