Eric Bristow

TrafficMaster said:
I dont have to be told to like anyone. If im not keen on raging woofwoofs then I think that is my right.

Not explicity stating that you like a group of people is not a "phobia" its just called personal preference.

Gay people are free to do as they wish, good luck to them, I hold nothing against them, but they will not be friends of mine.

I also do not agree gay people should adopt, I think it warps the minds of young children and I think its wrong, again this does not make me a "Phobic", just a regular person with an opinion.
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It does make you homophobic. A phobia is an irrational fear, and it is irrational to fear homosexuals like you do. There have been many studies into the effects of same sex parenting on children, all finding it does not have any adverse or negative affect on the child.

You hold an irrational fear of homosexuals, that is the very definition of homophobia.
 
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TrafficMaster said:
I dont have to be told to like anyone. If im not keen on raging woofwoofs then I think that is my right.
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That is totally your right. But it does make you homophobic, by definition.

It's also completely ok to not like the idea of same sex parenting, just as long as you recognise that is personal opinion and has zero basis in fact.
 
Dj_Jestar said:
It does make you homophobic. A phobia is an irrational fear, and it is irrational to fear homosexuals like you do.
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He's not expressed any fear of them, only a lack of interest in associating with them.

I don't want to associate with people who engage in animal cruelty, but I don't fear them and my views are certainly not irrational.
 
Thompson_NCL said:
He's not expressed any fear of them, only a lack of interest in associating with them.

I don't want to associate with people who engage in animal cruelty, but I don't fear them and my views are certainly not irrational.
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It's not about fear. Homophobia is about a dislike or prejudice towards gay people.
 
Thompson_NCL said:
He's not expressed any fear of them, only a lack of interest in associating with them.

I don't want to associate with people who engage in animal cruelty, but I don't fear them and my views are certainly not irrational.
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He said he doesn't agree with gay people adopting because it warps the minds of the kids, every study and every actual fact PROVES this is rubbish. Thus him believing that is irrational, he fears gay people warp the minds of people around them and can change them. He obviously thinks that kids can have their minds warped by being around a gay person... in what way, a child raised by a gay man will obviously become gay? Is that also why he states he won't have a gay friend, for the same reason, he believes he can catch it or that gay people will warp his own mind?

This is all irrational fear based not on fact but prejudice and ignorance. The other issue is the person who stated this who you quoted explained what part of what he was saying made him homophobic but you didn't quote the explanation, just the first part and attempted to excuse the the other guy who is plainly homophobic.

As for comparing it to people who are cruel to animals.. disliking people who are cruel(regardless as to who or what they are cruel to) is not irrational and entirely incomparable. Someone who would choose to lets say beat an animal is simply a bad person, but there are also numerous studies that people who abuse animals often move on to being abusive to humans.
 
Basher said:
It's not about fear. Homophobia is about a dislike or prejudice towards gay people.
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According to the people who distort and twist language to the point where they make it meaningless? Yeah, no, I think I'll ignore that definition.

The reason "homophobia" was popularised as a term was to make it appear that opposition to the normalisation of homosexual lifestyles was due to some mental weakness. These are the same people who conjured up Transphobia.
 
Thompson_NCL said:
He's not expressed any fear of them, only a lack of interest in associating with them.

I don't want to associate with people who engage in animal cruelty, but I don't fear them and my views are certainly not irrational.
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"fear" is anything from a mild concern to abject terror. He has demonstrated that - explicitly so with his statement about "warping" the minds of children.
 
Thompson_NCL said:
According to the people who distort and twist language to the point where they make it meaningless? Yeah, no, I think I'll ignore that definition.

The reason "homophobia" was popularised as a term was to make it appear that opposition to the normalisation of homosexual lifestyles was due to some mental weakness. These are the same people who conjured up Transphobia.
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No, according to the Oxford English Dictionary ...

NOUN

[mass noun] Dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people.
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Basher said:
No, according to the Oxford English Dictionary ...
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The dictionary does not decide the definition of words, it reflects popular use and thus includes the agenda driven distortions popularised by the LGBTQP+ lobby. Citing it as a counter argument is therefore pointless, since I don't argue the popular use of the word. I am saying it is used incorrectly.
 
What you are doing is clutching at straws to defend your bigoted views. Arguing that the OED doesn't have the correct definition of a word indeed. What an embarrassing display of desperation.
 
His mistake was to use Twitter, if he'd have posted on Facebook no one would have bothered.
 
Thompson_NCL said:
The dictionary does not decide the definition of words, it reflects popular use and thus includes the agenda driven distortions popularised by the LGBTQP+ lobby. Citing it as a counter argument is therefore pointless, since I don't argue the popular use of the word. I am saying it is used incorrectly.
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So what you're saying is that you're not wrong, it's everyone else that is!?
 
Thompson_NCL said:
The dictionary does not decide the definition of words, it reflects popular use and thus includes the agenda driven distortions popularised by the LGBTQP+ lobby. Citing it as a counter argument is therefore pointless, since I don't argue the popular use of the word. I am saying it is used incorrectly.
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No, you can tell words that are used incorrectly - they're words like; "arachnophobia" used by people that dislike spiders as opposed to having a crippling physical fear reaction (has this been driven by the anti-spider lobby?) or "vertigo" for fear of heights.

You can see this by looking in a dictionary.

arachnophobia
əˌraknəˈfəʊbɪə/
noun
extreme or irrational fear of spiders.
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vertigo
ˈvəːtɪɡəʊ/
noun
a sensation of whirling and loss of balance, associated particularly with looking down from a great height, or caused by disease affecting the inner ear or the vestibular nerve; giddiness.
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But let's be honest, if you're the sort of person who complains about the common usage of those, you're the sort of person who says things like "I don't know, CAN you go to the toilet?" or "How are you HOOVERING, I thought you had a Dyson?"

What you're doing is complaining that the dictionary definition of a word is wrong because you have decided so. Luckily, this is not how dictionaries work.
 
The whole point really is that the guy he was attempting to defend clearly does have an irrational fear of gay people, he literally believes that gay people warp the minds of those around them which is obviously why he doesn't want to be near gay people and why he thinks children shouldn't be allowed near gay people.

This covers the actual usage of the word by the public and his attempting to defend, it must be about an irrational fear usage of the word phobia.
 
Basher said:
So what you're saying is that you're not wrong, it's everyone else that is!?
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I'm not the only one who makes this argument, so it's not a case of me versus everyone else. It may well be the minority versus the majority, but that doesn't mean anything. The majority can be wrong, especially when they are misled by those pushing a narrative.
 
Its the new breed of gays that are desperate on social normalisation.

Most people are NOT gay, it is therefore NOT normal.

An example of this would be a youtube channel, called QueerKidsStuff....

Truly truly disturbing.

I believe in equality, but real equality, where bakery owners and churches should not be forced into marrying people they do not like.

If you want to be gay, great, be gay, get on with it, just do not kick up a fuss when most of the population are not gay like you and have different beliefs.

When I was at school, if I had a "dad and a dad" I would have had the **** kicked out of me everyday, and rightly so I think, its a ridiculous situation. Children should have a mother and a father for a balanced upbringing.

Two camp guys raising a child, is not going to produce a healthy, balanced individual.

most gay people I have met have been grating, effeminate, drama queens, and they get right on my nerves. Why can they not be normal, everyday men?
 
TrafficMaster said:
When I was at school, if I had a "dad and a dad" I would have had the **** kicked out of me everyday, and rightly so I think, its a ridiculous situation. Children should have a mother and a father for a balanced upbringing.
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Holy **** that has to be one of the worse things I have ever seen any one post on this forum.
 
MikeTheNative said:
Holy **** that has to be one of the worse things I have ever seen any one post on this forum.
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I meant in the circumstances, when I was at school there were not gay couples adopting, it was sometime ago. So in the context before things changed, it was more normal for children to be much harder than they are now.

I should have explained better....:(
 
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