Poll: Okay to ban noisy kids from some places?

Is it OK to ban children from establishments?

  • Yes

    Votes: 263 91.0%

  • No

    Votes: 26 9.0%
  • Total voters
    289
  • Poll closed .
Arcane said:
I don't see the problem with it personally (I am a dad btw). We have a local cafe that has the same policy, some people just don't want to be around kids when they go for a meal/coffee etc, surely that's their choice?
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Ditto this. There are plenty of family oriented restaurants around, I don't see the issue?

AHarvey said:
we can't ban people on skin colour, gender or sexuality but it seems age is ok?
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There are plenty of circumstances where it's acceptable to discriminate based on age, or do you think kids should be allowed into nightclubs, to buy alcohol, drive, and get credit cards?

The difference is that you make a choice to have kids, you don't get a choice whether youre black, gay, disabled or ginger!
 
Steampunk said:
Fact is, mothers today can be some of the most selfish people when out and about.
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Then they can come up to teh counter and get their food them*selves*... What? WHAT? NO CHIPS? Sorry luv, I can't hear your order over the screaming kids... :D

AHarvey said:
But, I also support the fact that it's her business and she should be able to serve who ever she so chooses too.
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I think it's more a case of lose kid-hating customers or lose parental customers, really...

Haggisman said:
you don't get a choice whether youre black, gay, disabled or ginger!
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Depends which politician you ask, innit? :p
 
Reminds me of the gay wedding cake debacle.

I'm guessing it's okay to ban kids unless the kid is a homosexual?
 
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i thought this was a thing for certain restaurants to ban kids?

tbh i'm on the fence about food establishments, but absolutely for the compulsory banning of children (and adult children) who cannot stfu in the cinema.
 
adolf hamster said:
but absolutely for the compulsory banning of children (and adult children) who cannot stfu in the cinema.
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Yet cinemas provide the noisiest snacks - Popcorn and crisps.

Chomped on by open mouthed kids who seemed to of not eaten for atleast an hour since leaving KFC.

It is a non-compulsary snack, not an emergency food drop from UNICEF.

Only need flies around their mouths to make the picture complete.
 
It's a private business, she can let who ever she wants into her property as far as I'm concerned. It's the publics job to react by choosing to eat there or not
 
Brizzles said:
Her business, her decision.

Personally, i dislike kids running around shouting when i'm in a restaurant.

The bit about buggies blocking tables could have been used instead of a straight ban.

Pretty sure buggies blocking tables and impeding movement could also be used as a potential fire escape hazard
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I agree with you.

Some pubs allow kids while others have a no kids or no young kids policy.

It should be down to manager's discretion in cafés and restaurants as well.
 
Would be much better if it was simply a ban on noisy people. I don't mind noisy kids too much, although depends if its just down to poor parenting or kids being kids. More annoying are noisy teenagers, drunk hooligans, noisy chavs, screaming teenage girls etc.

The usual way to keep out such riff-raff is just to increases prices. They can simply do away with any kind of childs menu and have a $10 sur-charge for sharing plates, including sharing with children. No high chairs or kids coloring materiel and you soon find that families avoid it anyway.
 
Dis86 said:
I support her. Nothing worse than trying to enjoy a pleasant meal and you either have a screaming baby or hyper toddler running around.
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Agreed. There are plenty of restaurants where toddlers are allowed and I am all for having somewhere to go where they aren't allowed.

Pretty sure this isnt the first place to do this either?

Afterall, there are children free hotels you can go to. Why arent mumsnet up in arms over them?
 
AHarvey said:
As a parent, banning kids I can see as being a royal pain in the backside, what if lots follow in her footsteps, going out with kids becomes very difficult. At the same time, we can't ban people on skin colour, gender or sexuality but it seems age is ok? Lets ban anyone over 70 because there's a high chance they'll smell of lavender and pee...

But, I also support the fact that it's her business and she should be able to serve who ever she so chooses too.

Kids can be a little loud at time but we always keep ours under control, I'd never let them annoy anyone else but as already mentioned here, as long as some parents can hear their kids they don't care what they are doing! :(
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Market forces. Clearly every restaurant wont ban kids as they would be excluding a huge portion of their market.

But its equally fine for some to ban them
 
asim18 said:
Reminds me of the gay wedding cake debacle.
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Came to mind here too.

Business owners should be able to refuse service to whomever they want for whatever reason they want.

Entitled parents are the ****ing worst, no your child isn't more important than everything else, and no one gives a **** about or wants to hear your child screaming because you don't know how to be a parent.

Good on that woman, more places should do the same.
 
Yes, it's horrible having to sit and eat whilst listening to screaming kids.

It's 'discriminatory'...lol, take a hike! That card is played far too often these days.

I wish their business all the best and hope the actions of these minorities haven't hindered it.
 
Within reason. If parents are having trouble controlling kids because of illness let it slide. If they are being noisy and unruly because they've just been raised by chav parents then yes.

However businesses have the right to serve whoever they want don't they within reason? If that reason is disrupting other people who pay them equally but whose custom they will lose then it's up to the shop?
 
To the people who say "it's discrimination", it is. So what?

People discriminate all the time, you find brunettes more attractive than blondes? That's discrimination.

If you ever have to make a choice about anything you have to discriminate. Doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing. If this person doesn't want parents with young children in their business, so be it. It's a private business you are entitled to no courtesy other than what the law entails.
 
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