*** Nintendo Switch ***

Mucky_Pup said:
I'm still getting mine at launch, 1-2 switch doesn't interest me at all, and arms just looks like a newer wii sports boxing which I think will have limited replayability. I'll buy Zelda, and maybe bomberman, play them for a bit then not bother playing on it until more games come.

If they'd released with Mario, Mario Kart 8, and Skyrim I would have bought all of them at launch as well.
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And they will all be out for Christmas 2017, so it should be a good seller.
 
So, will Nintendo pull their usual stunts.

1) Hype their new product up beyond belief
2) Purposely under supply retailers with their consoles
3) Demand is through the roof, scalpers are making lots of money, papers make a big deal about it (free advertising)
4) Four / Six months down the line they start releasing a lot more consoles

Looks like a decent console, I am bit dubious about how well Nintendo will pull off a online service though. They have a lot of work ahead of them if they are expecting people to pay for their previously shoddy online service.
 
DONOHUE07 said:
Where the hell did I say that I wanted that??? I am merely pointing out the lack of major 3rd party support with the launch imminent, and not many people have the WiiU for that very reason alone
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I buy Nintendo consoles for their games and the games you don't get anywhere else. I don't care about yearly COD or BF re;eases.

Give me a good Mario and Zelda once in a generation that I can sink my teeth into and enjoy for years to come.

I would love a new F Zero and Pilot Wings as well.

I still play Link to the Past frequently on my SNES and Mario Sunshine on my GC.

Its not all about the third party titles I can get on any other console.
 
Imagine what Zelda or Mario would be like with having the power of a ps4 pro behind it, this is what has let me down. Seems the Switch can't even manage Zelda at 1080p so it's running at 900p@ 30fps in TV mode. That's pathetic for a 2017 console come on guys :(
 
steve5424 said:
I buy Nintendo consoles for their games and the games you don't get anywhere else. I don't care about yearly COD or BF re;eases.

Give me a good Mario and Zelda once in a generation that I can sink my teeth into and enjoy for years to come.

I would love a new F Zero and Pilot Wings as well.

I still play Link to the Past frequently on my SNES and Mario Sunshine on my GC.

Its not all about the third party titles I can get on any other console.
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Think you are missing the point, many people can't afford two consoles. They need to put their eggs in one basket. They won't likely choose the switch for that, especially the younger generation. As a second console this thing won't do massive numbers. It needs 3rd party support for that really.
 
RedStarRiot said:
Yeah, Crash Bandicoot with its total freedom of backwards and forwards using the D-Pad....

As advised previously player controlled camera was a first and ground breaking since a million other games copied it.
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The earliest example of a true 3D platformer is a French computer game called Alpha Waves, created by Christophe de Dinechin and published by Infogrames in 1990 for the Atari ST, Amiga, and PC.[58][59] It featured full-screen 3D graphics, true 3D movement, and a movable camera, all firsts for the genre.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_game#The_third_dimension

Whilst I'd accept that Super Mario 64 may have appeared novel to console owners of the time and that the analogue stick for console play was a good design consideration, as is often the case in discussion with others who feel Apple "invented" the touch screen etc, it entirely ignores historical precedent.

I'm not saying Alpha Waves is a better game, more popular etc I am saying Super Mario 64 wasn't novel or groundbreaking, beyond market success.
 
Sugnid said:
The thing is, if Nintendo had 13/14 titles out at launch, how many of them would have actually been bought at launch?

I appreciate people saying that they want to have a choice etc, but if 75% of those would have been left on the shelves, as opposed to just having a small lineup at launch and a staggered release of games throughout the year, it will give those titles an actual chance.

Like as weird as the game is, 1-2 Switch will sell well because of the whole HD Rumble dynamic, Bomberman will appeal to the nostalgic gamers and Zelda is Zelda.

So I think they have done the right thing here.
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Completely agree with this. Would rather games progressively come out rather than 50 launch titles and most of them not being touched and just sitting on shelves. Launches with Zelda, get Zelda, play Zelda, you're unlikely to complete it before MK8 comes out at the end of the next month. I would imagine that any who game a lot more that would complete it sooner will have more than just the Switch as an option.

Lots of people are saying Nintendo are stupid/foolish and don't have a marketing bone in their body...have rushed this etc. I disagree with a lot of it. I think the company knows what it's doing better than the armchair experts across the internets. I believe they have a strategy. The fact that so many people are actually talking about this console before its released shows they're actually marketing the damn thing...they're already 1up on the Wii-U. I went into a store this morning to ask and they told me that whilst they don't have the list price they already have 40 people to call back when they have their stock allocation...and Portugal is hardly the hub for gaming and consoles!

ZG002 said:
Think you are missing the point, many people can't afford two consoles. They need to put their eggs in one basket. They won't likely choose the switch for that, especially the younger generation. As a second console this thing won't do massive numbers. It needs 3rd party support for that really.
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This is what I'm doing :p - Switch will be my only console :)
 
DONOHUE07 said:
Where the hell did I say that I wanted that??? I am merely pointing out the lack of major 3rd party support with the launch imminent, and not many people have the WiiU for that very reason alone
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Apologies I might have misunderstood but you said
where are the big multiplatform sellers like bf1 cod and Titanfall2
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I already own a PS4 and Xbox One, I want a Switch for a different experience and games, another COD machine wouldn't appeal to me personally.
 
stewski said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_game#The_third_dimension

Whilst I'd accept that Super Mario 64 may have appeared novel to console owners of the time and that the analogue stick for console play was a good design consideration, as is often the case in discussion with others who feel Apple "invented" the touch screen etc, it entirely ignores historical precedent.

I'm not saying Alpha Waves is a better game, more popular etc I am saying Super Mario 64 wasn't novel or groundbreaking, beyond market success.
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Can we keep on topic re. the Switch, we've had pages of you going on about Mario 64, we get your position on this game.

You've also stated you don't like Mario and you do like Mario so can we move on. If you don't like Mario, Switch or Nintendo can you go post in another thread.
 
KraniX said:
Can we keep on topic re. the Switch, we've had pages of you going on about Mario 64, we get your position on this game.

You've also stated you don't like Mario and you do like Mario so can we move on. If you don't like Mario, Switch or Nintendo can you go post in another thread.
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Odd you ignore that others started that conversation and have posted here regarding it, or that I previously stated that I think the Wii is arguably the best console ever created, or that I'm a huge fan of Kirby's epic yarn (a nintendo platform game) or that I generally hope the switch succeeds.

Apologies for posting facts regarding previous nintendo work and gaming history, should we all just hail some corporation or shut up?
 
Cryfreeman said:
Imagine what Zelda or Mario would be like with having the power of a ps4 pro behind it, this is what has let me down. Seems the Switch can't even manage Zelda at 1080p so it's running at 900p@ 30fps in TV mode. That's pathetic for a 2017 console come on guys :(
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I think the important point is, that isn't pathetic for 2017, it's pathetic for a game that looks like Zelda does and on a machine that costs £280.

If it cost £180 and being a handheld that performance would be understandable, or if Zelda had drastically better textures, better lighting etc, then 30fps at 1080p isn't a joke. But they priced it above the PS4/Xbox One, but looks WAY worse than any AAA game on those consoles and doesn't give great performance either.

I don't mind the style they went with Zelda and it improves performance by making it more simple but I thought in the video while a big open expanse has a style that looks okay with just Link, the texture quality and style of a lot of the bad guys looked pretty terrible.
 
drunkenmaster said:
I think the important point is, that isn't pathetic for 2017, it's pathetic for a game that looks like Zelda does and on a machine that costs £280.

If it cost £180 and being a handheld that performance would be understandable, or if Zelda had drastically better textures, better lighting etc, then 30fps at 1080p isn't a joke. But they priced it above the PS4/Xbox One, but looks WAY worse than any AAA game on those consoles and doesn't give great performance either.

I don't mind the style they went with Zelda and it improves performance by making it more simple but I thought in the video while a big open expanse has a style that looks okay with just Link, the texture quality and style of a lot of the bad guys looked pretty terrible.
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The New 3DSXL was launched at like £200.

Why would a console with a larger screen with hand held capability, higher res and higher power be launch cheaper?
 
I like cell shaded game, they are timeless, they don't really age.

Windwaker may not be the best Zelda game but it looks fresher today than Twilight Princess.
 
What I like about it now looking more into the console is that since it takes USB C for charging, then using it with powerblocks on the move will be amazing. If it is really good we may get a 2nd one.
 
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