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do you ever wish? you could settle for less?

I haven't moved past 1080p gaming yet and wont be moving off it anytime soon. Used to have a dedicated mancave and spend loads of money of different custom WC loops and modding cases but when I think about how much I spent on it all its crazy.

But since I have had my son firstly had to give up my mancave for a nursery so I have been relegated to playing games on my couch for the last two years. I have another sprog on the way so it will be many years until move from gaming in the lounge.

For this reason when I get a 4k tv in the future I will probably stick to laying games on the new xbox as the im never going to pay 700 quid on a gpu to play 4k.

But for now 1080p from my couch looks fine my card just struggles with the 3gb vram.
 
I went from an old LG 1080p 60Hz 24" monitor to the MG279Q 27" 1440p (144Hz freesync)

For the resolution bump I now feel like at 24"+ I would never use 1080p again and that is a little painful due to the costs of just getting that extra DPI. I'm a programmer in my day job so this monitor is wonderful to use daily. (Probably the best purchase iv made since my R9-290)

The better refresh rate along with freesync I could probably do without (as I don't game as much as I used to) but it does make fast paced games that little bit more fluid.

On a side note:

I also upgraded my laptop to a 15" dell with a "4K" display last year, and really it would have been better with a 1080p display. In a lot of applications scaling is totally broken, things look blurry and the extra GPU grunt needed to drive the extra pixels is really bad for battery life. In fact I normally set the laptop to display 1080p and deal with the non native resolution :/


So all in all for me upgrading displays have been a mix of "I am never going back" to "give me that lower res screen !" :confused:
 
People worry a bit too much nowadays - remember when Crysis came out?? Try maxing out the game back then at 60FPS on a 1680X1050 monitor back then at launch.

Even with an 8800GTS 512MB and an overclocked Core2 duo the game destroyed hardware,yet it was still quite smooth under 60FPS.

Edit!!

I remember even dropping the resolution for the last bit of the game since it really pushed graphics cards quite a bit before further patches and better drivers did improve things IIRC.
 
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People worry a bit too much nowadays - remember when Crysis came out?? Try maxing out the game back then at 60FPS on a 1680X1050 monitor back then at launch.

Even with an 8800GTS 512MB and an overclocked Core2 duo the game destroyed hardware,yet it was still quite smooth under 60FPS.

Edit!!

I remember even dropping the resolution for the last bit of the game since it really pushed graphics cards quite a bit before further patches and better drivers did improve things IIRC.

IIRC I had 8800GT SLI and a E6600 or Q6600 @ 3.825GHz when Crysis was released or very sooner after - ran it pretty well as far as anything did then.

EDIT: I say well - found an old screenshot showing an average of 25fps with everything maxed out running around the first island map heh - though I believe that was before the drivers that gave a fair boost in FPS especially in SLI to many areas of the game.
 
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I will never understand why people view 1080P as such a "peasant" resolution, yes 1440P etc. is lovely for the extra screen real estate you get but most always seem to think it is like looking through a screen smeared with vaseline or something, that may be the case for 27" + 1080P 16.9 monitors depending on how close you sit to it... The sharpness/clarity improvements are down to:

- improved PPI that generally comes with a higher resolution
- viewing distance and since most screens with 1440+ are 27"+, you will naturally be sitting further back than say a 24" 1080P monitor, which helps give the perception of a sharper/clearer looking display
- the anti glare matte finish plays a big part in clarity, it is only in the last few years have most of the panels started to use a much lighter matte glare finish, more so the IPS panels



As for the topic of this thread...

I have never cared for having the newest high end when it comes to tech as I could never justify spending more than £300+ on any PC component (especially CPU, mobo + RAM), more so now as I don't game anywhere as much as I use too and there are so few games coming out that excites me these days so for now... I am happy with 29" 2560x1080 21.9 at a constant 50+ FPS with a frame latency staying around 15ms or less.

I also feel that PC gaming isn't as good as it once was either, over the last few years, PC titles haven't been great on release day/week(s) + the graphics aren't "that" much better looking, at least compared to the PS4/PRO (especially when connected to good TV's that have superior IQ to any current monitor), imo, the only advantages of the PC over consoles are now:

  • 21.9 (this really reignited my love for gaming)
  • being able to change settings, mod, sweetfx (although I have cut down on using this now as most modders either have awful eye sight or/and uncalibrated screens thus they over saturate the colours, contrast, introduce black crush and lose details...)
  • better for playing online
  • higher refresh screens/higher FPS
  • generally cheaper for games
  • g/free sync although freesync will be coming to consoles and TV...

It doesn't help either when the PS gets all the good exclusives, which makes you question why bother staying with a med/high end PC when you can't play any of the games you really want on it! :(

 
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many just waste too much time in looking at fps instead of playing the games and enjoying them.

done it myself now just enjoy playing games with friends.

try and find something you can sink your teeth into gaming wise and forget about it.

This... I used to be really bad for it, got too the point I was getting so picky about it.
Now I just max everything out does it feel good, excellent play.
I kinder know my limits and what I turn down first if I feel I need too.
 
I will never understand why people view 1080P as such a "peasant" resolution

Millennials are almost universally idiots.

especially when connected to good TV's that have superior IQ to any current monitor)

Nothing to stop you connecting your PC up to a good TV, except the aforementioned muppets telling you it'll all be ruined by 1/30th of a second of input lag.

It doesn't help either when the PS gets all the good exclusives, which makes you question why bother staying with a med/high end PC when you can't play any of the games you really want on it! :(

I'm saying this as a PS4 owner - Sony need those exclusives to justify the existence of PlayStation, and more importantly to enable the quarter billion a month they're getting from Playstation Plus.
 
I am actually in the middle of settling for less right this minute as I am selling my 1070 and going back to my 290. I already kind of miss my 1070, forgot how loud my 290 got when playing games. Apart from FIFA 17, the other games like Street Fighter 5 I am playing I will be doing so on my 1080p Plasma instead of my 4K monitor. Bit of a sacrifice but not a huge deal.

I am happy I got to experience all the latest games I wanted in 4K with my 1070. Will now wait and either get a Vega or a Volta. By then there will be a build up of a few new games I want to play again.

As for fps, not to bothered about it, if it feels smooth enough for me I play. I don't use OSD much if at all.
 
Buying expensive stuff makes us feel good. And when people can be convinced that it's justified (those extra 10 fps really make a difference (!)), that's when there are £700 gaming graphics cards on the market
 
I will never understand why people view 1080P as such a "peasant" resolution, yes 1440P etc. is lovely for the extra screen real estate you get but most always seem to think it is like looking through a screen smeared with vaseline or something, that may be the case for 27" + 1080P 16.9 monitors depending on how close you sit to it... The sharpness/clarity improvements are down to:

- improved PPI that generally comes with a higher resolution
- viewing distance and since most screens with 1440+ are 27"+, you will naturally be sitting further back than say a 24" 1080P monitor, which helps give the perception of a sharper/clearer looking display
- the anti glare matte finish plays a big part in clarity, it is only in the last few years have most of the panels started to use a much lighter matte glare finish, more so the IPS panels



As for the topic of this thread...

I have never cared for having the newest high end when it comes to tech as I could never justify spending more than £300+ on any PC component (especially CPU, mobo + RAM), more so now as I don't game anywhere as much as I use too and there are so few games coming out that excites me these days so for now... I am happy with 29" 2560x1080 21.9 at a constant 50+ FPS with a frame latency staying around 15ms or less.

I also feel that PC gaming isn't as good as it once was either, over the last few years, PC titles haven't been great on release day/week(s) + the graphics aren't "that" much better looking, at least compared to the PS4/PRO (especially when connected to good TV's that have superior IQ to any current monitor), imo, the only advantages of the PC over consoles are now:

  • 21.9 (this really reignited my love for gaming)
  • being able to change settings, mod, sweetfx (although I have cut down on using this now as most modders either have awful eye sight or/and uncalibrated screens thus they over saturate the colours, contrast, introduce black crush and lose details...)
  • better for playing online
  • higher refresh screens/higher FPS
  • generally cheaper for games
  • g/free sync although freesync will be coming to consoles and TV...

It doesn't help either when the PS gets all the good exclusives, which makes you question why bother staying with a med/high end PC when you can't play any of the games you really want on it! :(

I am not very fussy relative to some here, but I personally cannot go back to a 1080p monitor after using my 4K. I can actually see the pixels even on a 23 inch 1080p panel which I tried a couple of days ago. The difference to me from a 1080p monitor to 4K monitor is night and day. I would rather use windows scaling on 4K which is not as good as it should be than use a 1080p monitor.

The funny thing is, I am perfectly happy with my 50 inch 1080p plasma tv. My guess is because I am able to sit further back and not see the pixels. My plan is to wait until around 2019 and get 2018's 65" 4K OLED TV on the cheap just as the 2019 tv's come out :D
 
many just waste too much time in looking at fps instead of playing the games and enjoying them.

done it myself now just enjoy playing games with friends.

try and find something you can sink your teeth into gaming wise and forget about it.


The older you get, that's the mindset you get into. Enjoy gaming and forget about epeen swinging look at the size of my monitor stuff.
 
The older you get, that's the mindset you get into. Enjoy gaming and forget about epeen swinging look at the size of my monitor stuff.

I don't think it's all epeen, for a lot of us it's just a genuine passion, I'm nearly 40 myself.

I used to know a man in his seventies that used to secretly buy new graphics cards using my account so his wife wouldn't find out, he would take the computer around mine to get it 'repaired' while really it was getting an upgrade!
 
I always want the best computer kit. However, I luckily am aware that I'd really regret it if I spent loads on it as I'd still be playing the same games for the same very limited amount of time as I do now. As a result I keep hold of my spending (though, think this year might be the one where I do another decent sized upgrade... just need to try and not go nuts when I do it!)
 
Good thread. :)

On the whole, no.

For me, it depends on the hardware in question, though having said that I don't think my requirements or interests quite put me in the super enthusiast part of PC gaming anyway.

It seems as I get older, the less I mind about turning down the odd setting, though sometimes it only amounts to things I don't especially care for anyway like motion blur/chromatic aberration. Employing a less intensive level of AA is usually the only option in the menu that I find I might have to compromise on - which I don't mind at all, and even that isn't very often.

However, where monitors are concerned, I am a little less willing to be flexible as that is the most important purchase that I will make (aside from the PSU) because it isn't just gaming that I want the higher resolution/refresh rate for. Last year, I went from 1200p to 1440p, and I honestly couldn't go back now. That said, my screen is only the S2716DG, so not as prestigious a monitor as some of the ones people use on here, but it was still a hell of an improvement on my old 1200p 60hz Samsung, and for a TN panel the picture is surprisingly good. I was very tempted at the time to go for one of the 34" super-wide screen monitors, but I decided to put that on hold for now as I couldn't quite find what I was looking for that ticked enough boxes without spending a very large amount of cash. I always try to get as much value as I can from a 'higher end' product, e.g. if I was picking a video card now, I wouldn't be looking at the Fury X, I'd be quite happy with a 290/390/480.

I guess I can't miss what I haven't yet had, eh? :)
 
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Great thread, its subjective to your own desires, like my younger brother, he said can you build me a PC to game on at 1080p on his HD tv he plays, assetto corsa with all the steering wheel, seat ect and is very good at it. he used to play Xbox.

didn't want to spend a lot, so I had a Socket 775 quad core, Asus PW5 pro board, 8gig memory DDR2 and a GTX 680sc with keyboard and mouse.

he bought case and PSU with SSD and we loaded Iracing, assetto corsa and race room. loaded up his steering wheel and hes been happy as larry and loves it. no he cant have all the eye candy flat out, but its much better than xbox and he gets himself in the top leagues on u tube racing.

When he came to me and I set up my steering wheel ect at 4k all eye candy on, he never even commented on the GFX, all he was interested in was how the wheel felt and pedals, never even took any notice of the GFX or anything else.

For him it was all about the game and feel of the controls, sometimes I wish I could be the same, but for me its more than the game, its a hobby also.
 
I couldn't go back to 1080p either. Been on 1440p for 2 years, love my Rog screen, one of the best investments I made and my eyes thanked me for it :)
 
I have a 25" qHD screen,and I had no problem going back to 1080P TBH on the same screen running some games.

If a game is that bad,that a resolution drop will stop me playing it,then it must not be very interesting. Sure,running at qHD is nicer,as is a constant 60FPS,but its not going to always happen with all games,especially at launch.
 
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I kind of wished I never went to 4k as after seeing how fantastic games look I wouldn't want to go any less but then the price of gpus these days makes me wish I just stayed at 1440p and my 980 Ti would suffice
 
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