Are you proud to be British / European?

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Thekwango said:
Really? Don't understand that at all.
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Being a bit of a history buff I just find it amazing what Europe has done for the world. For about 600 years most of the world was controlled by Europe. Furthermore a lot of culture / science and technology originated from Europe. All of these things make me proud of the history of the continent.
 
I'd say Lucky is more the word I would use.

I was lucky to be born here and live in a civilised and free society. If I was born in some war torn hell hole I think I'd want to migrate somewhere.
 
Hedge said:
I'd say Lucky is more the word I would use.

I was lucky to be born here and live in a civilised and free society. If I was born in some war torn hell hole I think I'd want to migrate somewhere.
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True. We are very lucky to live here. I might rant about the politicians because I don't agree with them but I love this country and I feel immense pain to think that we will be leaving the EU.
 
Cromulent said:
True. We are very lucky to live here. I might rant about the politicians because I don't agree with them but I love this country and I feel immense pain to think that we will be leaving the EU.
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Seriously, immense pain?

You're still European regardless of our mere membership of a political union. We're not pushing ourselves into the middle of the Atlantic.
 
Cromulent said:
Being a bit of a history buff I just find it amazing what Europe has done for the world. For about 600 years most of the world was controlled by Europe. Furthermore a lot of culture / science and technology originated from Europe. All of these things make me proud of the history of the continent.
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Oh I understand your reasoning. I just don't understand how it gives you a warm fuzzy feeling. I feel grateful, especially when compared to middle eastern areas or 3rd world countries but not warm fuzzies!
Also as a self proclaimed history buff is your warm fuzziness for what gb and Europe has achieved in those 600 years not tempered a bit by some of the atrocities they carried out?
 
Thekwango said:
Oh I understand your reasoning. I just don't understand how it gives you a warm fuzzy feeling. I feel grateful, especially when compared to middle eastern areas or 3rd world countries but not warm fuzzies!
Also as a self proclaimed history buff is your warm fuzziness for what gb and Europe has achieved in those 600 years not tempered a bit by some of the atrocities they carried out?
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There are always atrocities and I feel really bad about what we did. Especially in India and Africa. We need to study them and learn from our mistakes so we don't do them again.
 
Dis86 said:
Immense pain. Talk about being a drama queen!
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It is impossible to describe how important an event leaving the EU was. I think you are down playing it somewhat. The decision to leave the EU is going to haunt this country for decades, perhaps even centuries.
 
Proud to be English. As for European, I'm indifferent. If we were remaining in the EU then it may have a bit more sway with me but seen as we're brexiting then ... indifferent.
 
I'm not proud to be British, nor European.
I'm not proud of either's history.
I'm not proud of my existence or anything that i have achieved.
I'm not proud, generally, of the human race.
I am however, proud of some individual's actions in life. Those usually selfless to what I deem a good cause.

This thread is going to go brilliantly. Though there is a thread on Nationalism in the Speakers Corner should you wish to discuss this topic in a civil manner.
 
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