*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[N19h7m4r3]

Oh no....... what's next CGA 640×200

Leave it to Joker to be extremely thorough. The 7700K wins at 720p, but at higher IPC and having a 1.1Ghz advantage.

Once the resolution hits 1080p they're near even; also the 7700K seems to have a little stuttering in some games.

 

[RavenXXX2]

Oh no....... what's next CGA 640×200

Goes to show the superior IPC of the Intel, 200+ fps difference in some scenes.

 

[8 Pack]

Or waited till computex and have everything working correctly, such as memory oc with 4 dimms, efficiency etc etc.

Still a good cpu for multi thread and great value.

 

[TheBiznes]

@harney
Was there any more available?

 

[Locky]

Goes to show the superior IPC of the Intel, 60+ fps difference in some scenes.

Yeah and stuttering that comes with it..

 

[harney]

also the 7700K seems to have a little stuttering in some games.

Oh this smoothness thing i think AMD have a feature that they do not even know about ..if its true its taken Ryzen to show how bad Intels are

What i would like done is run set benchmarks like division run and get a high speed camera one that can rec the frames higher than the pc is rendering and rec both Ryzen and Intel and analyse the footage and see if one is smoother than the other or which one as more hick ups ..........I think AMD has the smoothness special hp sauce

 

[harney]

@harney
Was there any more available?

Sorry no it was a forest peoples warehut deal keep an eye out they pop up now and again

 

[RavenXXX2]

Have the reviewers said anything on zen extra smoothness? if so can you link to them. Otherwise I'm calling bull as frame times are no different to Intel CPUs.

 

[TheBiznes]

@harney
Thanks I have been searching all day for something I thought might be OK.

 

[humbug]

Oh no....... what's next CGA 640×200

3Ghz memory on that system.

1700 @ 3.9Ghz
7700K @ 5Ghz

At 720P at around 150 FPS there is a 10 FPS difference to the 7700K, thats pretty bloody good, had that been the results with all reviewers we would be having a very different conversation right now.

 

[RavenXXX2]

3Ghz memory on that system.

1700 @ 3.9Ghz
7700K @ 5Ghz

At 720P at around 150 FPS there is a 10 FPS difference to the 7700K, thats pretty bloody good, had that been the results with all reviewers we would be having a very different conversation right now.

Sniper Elite is 200 fps difference.

 

[humbug]

Witcher 3 is 200 fps difference.

Are you sure? neither system even gets to 200 FPS, its around 150 and the most difference i saw was 25 FPS to the 7700K

 

[harney]

3Ghz memory on that system.

1700 @ 3.9Ghz
7700K @ 5Ghz

At 720P at around 150 FPS there is a 10 FPS difference to the 7700K, thats pretty bloody good, had that been the results with all reviewers we would be having a very different conversation right now.

There is either something fishy going on or its a motherboard thing joker is on the gigabyte 5 board i see reviews with issues are on msi / asus need to varify this ...

tbh i am not sure what is going on ...its such a shame really as i want AMD to do well as they have something great here with Ryzen but some of these reviews is not doing them any good ...

 

[RavenXXX2]

Are you sure? neither system even gets to 200 FPS, its around 150 and the most difference i saw was 25 FPS to the 7700K

I meant sniper elite, are you watching the 720p low settings vid..

 

[humbug]

Are you sure? neither system even gets to 200 FPS, its around 150 and the most difference i saw was 25 FPS to the 7700K

Nope... just watched the it again with my eyes glued to the FPS counter, most was 170 FPS and the 7700K never got higher than a 15% lead.

 

[harney]

@harney
Thanks I have been searching all day for something I thought might be OK.

Np i would stick with them if you can get em cheap they seem great sticks from what i have been reading ....they have popped up a few times this week but i kept missing em ....today however i was lucky ...good luck

 

[Panos]

Oh no....... what's next CGA 640×200

Next step going to be IGP performance, and write off completely the 1700 because it doesn't have an IGP......

This is a farse. Instead of cracking up the resolutions to show how much more powerful the CPU is, they lower them down to allow for the higher clocked 7700K (by 1.1Ghz!!!!!!) show off.

They should add a new benchmark. Put both CPUs playing the same games, and on the back having a BR disk rendering.

Lets see who's better..... And please don't overclock the 1700K, leave it at stock speed.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Or waited till computex and have everything working correctly, such as memory oc with 4 dimms, efficiency etc etc.

Still a good cpu for multi thread and great value.

Another day,another AMD launch.

 

[sonnytbh]

Ordered elsewhere in the end.

Sigh...Order still in process............

Mine is the same, very disappointing when I ordered on the 22nd, I went elsewhere and will cancel with OcUK unfortunately. So much for preordering.

 

[MadMossy]

For some reason he's done DX11 on the Ryzen and DX12 on the i7 in tomb raider. That just seems extremely odd and obviously will favour one over the other as DX12 is multi-threaded which can be seen clearly with the i7 pegged at 100% cpu most of the time.