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Do I need to upgrade now?

Secret_Window

Secret_Window

Secret_Window

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I'm using a gtx 970 for gaming at 1080p, which works pretty well in most things with some settings turned down. But looking at the years ahead, I think it will struggle, so I'm looking at a potential upgrade. The only problem is, do I upgrade now or wait? My main concern is the prices that will continue to get worse once we have triggered article 50 and the full Brexit process has started.

I'm looking at both the gtx 1070 and 1080.
 
Only upgrade when your games are getting to the point of unplayable. I've only just upgraded from a ATI 6950 2GB to a 8GB 480, and even then that 6950 coped fine for most games, only in Doom was it unplayable. But I played 95% of Witcher 3 in 1200p high settings. Everything was more than playable. In fact I could have waited another gen tbh and just go back to play Doom.

So if all your games are playbable 50fps+ highest setting then leave it.
 
hornetstinger said:
Only upgrade when your games are getting to the point of unplayable. I've only just upgraded from a ATI 6950 2GB to a 8GB 480, and even then that 6950 coped fine for most games, only in Doom was it unplayable. But I played 95% of Witcher 3 in 1200p high settings. Everything was more than playable. In fact I could have waited another gen tbh and just go back to play Doom.

So if all your games are playbable 50fps+ highest setting then leave it.
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Ah~ I been using a 6950 2GB for many years too, (it broke a few days ago) I too found Doom to be almost unplayable, but I was playing on 3 screens. Might had been playable at 1080p for me.

Looking forward to getting a 480 or whatever new comes out in April from AMD.
 
IronWarrior said:
Ah~ I been using a 6950 2GB for many years too, (it broke a few days ago) I too found Doom to be almost unplayable, but I was playing on 3 screens. Might had been playable at 1080p for me.

Looking forward to getting a 480 or whatever new comes out in April from AMD.
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think something broke with 6950 drivers with doom, single screen opengl Tried lowest res and graphic setting. Total slideshow 5 fps. Witcher 3 about 25-40 fps high settings looked fab. Just weather slow down a bit to about 20fps.
 
hornetstinger said:
think something broke with 6950 drivers with doom, single screen opengl Tried lowest res and graphic setting. Total slideshow 5 fps. Witcher 3 about 25-40 fps high settings looked fab. Just weather slow down a bit to about 20fps.
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Definitely sounds like a game/driver problem. At 3160x1200, I was getting 10-15 FPS in Doom. I didn't get a chance to test it at 1080p, but it should had been higher FPS.
 
I'm running a 970 at 1080p and I struggle in BF1 and WOW is a joke. I think a lot of it is down to the old 2500k and 8 gig of pretty slow ram and so I'm reaching a point where I probably need a whole new motherboard, ram and cpu upgrade before anything else
 
Usually if you have to ask on here the answers no.

You're just looking for reasons to scratch the itch, upgrade when your experience in the titles you play becomes sub optimal.
 
fastwunz said:
I'm running a 970 at 1080p and I struggle in BF1 and WOW is a joke. I think a lot of it is down to the old 2500k and 8 gig of pretty slow ram and so I'm reaching a point where I probably need a whole new motherboard, ram and cpu upgrade before anything else
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Would agree its ur cpu , i have a 3570k and a gtx 670 and geting 50fps at 1080p in BF1, next for me is a gpu upgrade.
 
fastwunz said:
I'm running a 970 at 1080p and I struggle in BF1 and WOW is a joke. I think a lot of it is down to the old 2500k and 8 gig of pretty slow ram and so I'm reaching a point where I probably need a whole new motherboard, ram and cpu upgrade before anything else
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Overclock the 2500k, i maintain over 60fps Ultra settings at 3440x1440 with my 2500k at 4.2ghz and an overclocked gtx 1070. Before the 1070 overclock i was down to 55 fps on bf1, witcher, and nba 2k17 with drops to 50 on GTA V, since the overclock, ive been able to max out every game except GTA V.

A ram upgrade may help a little, as before when i was running a 7950 i upgraded to 1866mhz ram which was about a 4 fps improvement when i played at 1080p from 1333mhz and got me to around 40fps on fallout 4 at 1080p.

Still want to upgrade to ryzen though :)
 
Secret_Window said:
Deus Ex: Mankind Divided.
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Going by the benchmarks of the 1080ti, that game is not as well optimised as others , it seems particularly demanding.

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source: https://youtu.be/oVjONzm3ceI?t=3m52s

You could try oc'ing your 970 and see if that helps.

I dug a bit further for benches on 970 at 1080 for the game:
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source: https://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2016/08/23/deus-ex-mankind-divided-benchmarked/3

bit-tech's test setup for comparison is
 
I know it probably isn't well optimised, I just want to run better than it does, which right now is about as good as that graph shows for the 970.

Maybe I'm being OTT, but it is my favourite game.
 
Played Deus Ex a couple of weeks ago when the dlc came out on my 1080p plasma TV with my Radeon 290 which maintained 60fps minimums. All I needed to do was turn down textures to from ultra to high as it only has 4gb. Either you have a slow cpu and should overclock it, or the 970 has not aged well at all.

Unless you are the type that needs 100fps minimum and 60fps is horrid and unplayable, then in that case yes, you need an upgrade :p

Edit: Forgot to mention I actually do turn off things like depth of field and a few other undesirable effects that make thinks look worse and waste fps. I always turn them off even if I have 200+ fps.
 
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TNA said:
Played Deus Ex a couple of weeks ago when the dlc came out on my 1080p plasma TV with my Radeon 290 which maintained 60fps minimums. All I needed to do was turn down textures to from ultra to high as it only has 4gb. Either you have a slow cpu and should overclock it, or the 970 has not aged well at all.

Unless you are the type that needs 100fps minimum and 60fps is horrid and unplayable, then in that case yes, you need an upgrade :p

Edit: Forgot to mention I actually do turn off things like depth of field and a few other undesirable effects that make thinks look worse and waste fps. I always turn them off even if I have 200+ fps.
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Get out.:mad:
 
Secret_Window said:
I was actually joking lol.
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Lol. I thought you was serious :p

What are your settings on Deus Ex, I can help optimise it for you if you need. One of the big fps killers is that contact hardening shadows. Try with and without, you will see that graphics do not look better with it on anyway. At least imo and others who have observed it closely :)
 
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