Vehicle driven into people in Stockholm-Please refrain from speculative and antagonistic posts

It amazes me that people freely take samples of food and drink given out as promotional items at mainline train stations. It's always occured to me that it would be simple to hand out a lot of poisoned samples and kill hundreds of people before it's realised what's going on. I never take free samples like that but thousands of people do each day.

There's no glory in that though, these people are deranged and egotistical, it's nowhere near brutal enough
 
Oh ffs :(

This trend of using vehicles as weapons will undoubtedly continue, how can you possibly stop someone mowing people down?

design street furniture, bollards so they stop vehicles from mounting pavements as the UK has done in major cities... sadly, for whatever reason, they left Westminster bridge rather exposed

certainly we've had reduced risk of these things happening here and our gun laws have helped too - as much as people seem to claim that it is easy to get hold of firearms in the UK it clearly isn't *that* easy - Westminster attacker had to make do with a knife
 
You can't have bollards everywhere, these jokers will find a way to run people over if they so choose. We should have bollards up around any major pedestrian area though.

I guess they will find a way to kill in some fashion even if we did that, unfortunately.
 
Of course he's right. The massively overwhelming majority of Muslims are fine. If they wanted war they'd crush us as globally they massively outnumber us.

What? There are, as far as I know, 1.5 billion muslims. They do not outnumber nonmuslims.

But I am not claiming that all muslims are potential killers. But at the very least, salafists are - and those number in tens of million by themselves.
 
You can't have bollards everywhere, these jokers will find a way to run people over if they so choose. We should have bollards up around any major pedestrian area though.

I guess they will find a way to kill in some fashion even if we did that, unfortunately.

yes you can't have them everywhere but Westminster bridge was a massive oversight IMO, I appreciate that is speaking with hindsight but frankly all London bridges should have them

sure they will make attempts but minimising the risk is still worth it - I mean if guns were legal he'd have been able to kill more people too
 
What? There are, as far as I know, 1.5 billion muslims. They do not outnumber nonmuslims.

But I am not claiming that all muslims are potential killers. But at the very least, salafists are - and those number in tens of million by themselves.
I stand corrected, not sure what I was thinking of.

Nevertheless, they'd give us a run for our money if they were all up to no good.
 
yes you can't have them everywhere but Westminster bridge was a massive oversight IMO, I appreciate that is speaking with hindsight but frankly all London bridges should have them

sure they will make attempts but minimising the risk is still worth it - I mean if guns were legal he'd have been able to kill more people too

Can't disagree at all.
 
What? There are, as far as I know, 1.5 billion muslims. They do not outnumber nonmuslims.

But I am not claiming that all muslims are potential killers. But at the very least, salafists are - and those number in tens of million by themselves.
I dont think that sect is very widespread in Europe, in the Uk we have Anjem Choudary and his mates and they seem like idiots mostly.
 
The more recent attacks of this nature have thankfully had 'low' death tolls (although 5 still too many today and 4 too many in London), it just goes to show how unfortunately successful that idiot in Nice was killing 80+ odd and a reminder how potentially potent these attacks can be.
 
Anyone remember the media and even Swedish government mocking Trump when he talked about Sweden's lawlessness a few months ago? don't worry I'm sure their police have it all under control...

https://www.********.com/view?i=da0_1491131593
 
The more recent attacks of this nature have thankfully had 'low' death tolls (although 5 still too many today and 4 too many in London), it just goes to show how unfortunately successful that idiot in Nice was killing 80+ odd and a reminder how potentially potent these attacks can be.

5 in London.
 
Anyone remember the media and even Swedish government mocking Trump when he talked about Sweden's lawlessness a few months ago? don't worry I'm sure their police have it all under control...

https://www.********.com/view?i=da0_1491131593


All women cops I think, so causual though.
 
Anyone remember the media and even Swedish government mocking Trump when he talked about Sweden's lawlessness a few months ago? don't worry I'm sure their police have it all under control...

https://www.********.com/view?i=da0_1491131593
Trump was still wrong.
 
I am amazed there wans't more killed considering the length of high street they mowed down, then 3 of them jumped out of truck into subway and started shooting and stabbing people.
 
The problem in Sweden is they don't have the laws to go after the extremists within the country. So it's turned in to a breeding ground and people are quite openly funding terrorist groups from there, while the police are not allowed to go after them. They are becoming a security concern for all of Europe.
 
well i hope not, for a true civil war there would have to be a lo of people wanting to fight and I just dont see that and that isn't my experience of Muslims and non Muslims in London anyway.
Don’t underestimate what parts of Western Europe are potentially on the cusp of.

Right now we have extreme members of Group A attacking and killing random members of Group B on a near daily basis. As this is happening in law & order societies Group B is staying peaceful and allowing the authorities to deal with. But if it keeps happening it’s only a matter of time before extreme members of Group B start returning the favour. Once that happens the tit-for-tat attacks will escalate beyond just extreme members of each group as more and more people are affected.
 
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