Companies will apply the rules in a way that suits them , hence sharing a login could be gross misconduct or ignored completely. Can't see how sharing your internet history can do the other guy any good though. Unless he is under fire for doing things that you do.
What's the legality of this?
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I'm the head engineer, he's an engineer. It was my call to put him on it and my managers backed me up. This is my first time dealing with this kind of thing, hence the question. There is a long history with this guy. I don't think my bosses care that I shared my login, they want the work done, not sat there inaccessible. I just wanted to know where I stand on this, and it's exactly as suspected.
Cheers all
Sorry but as a head engineer you should know better than to share your login details with anyone. HR and Security won't care that he couldn't do his job without a login or that your managers backed you up, they'll just say that as he hasn't been through the process for obtaining a login he shouldn't have access to the system. By giving him your login details you're leaving yourself wide open.
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Couldn't he just swing this around and say you are trying to frame him?
I see what you're saying but it's not as simple as that sadly. I'll see what tomorrow brings.
Iirc youre quite senior (so hard to rwplace) didumds so a wirst slap for you but for him that is blatent gross misconduct ans if he iis under review an easy excuse to fire him.
You can be argued as a well meaning idiot who needs a course on computer security.
He is clearly acting with ill intent
You can be argued as a well meaning idiot who needs a course on computer security.
He is clearly acting with ill intent
Unless he does something malicious at a tribunal or whatever if dismissed over it they would probably ask why he wasn't put on some kind of course like that first :s
If they want rid of thw guy who did this its easy to argue he did it knowingly.
Didumds needa a slap on thw wrist for handing out his details as does thw guy for leaving it logged in but neither had any malixe to thier acrions.
Also what idiot screen shots instead od phone picing
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Depends what your internet history contains.
Frankly, unless you're continually browsing inappropriate sites and can make a case for staying productive whilst browsing then it won't matter all that much.
Giving your login details out though... :/
Frankly, unless you're continually browsing inappropriate sites and can make a case for staying productive whilst browsing then it won't matter all that much.
Giving your login details out though... :/
Yep our computers ask you to agree to the it policy every time.
And plugging any personal usb stick/phone/device in to any pc is grounds for instant dismisal under the policy
We've a funny one at work (not that I browse inappropriate sites) we have a corporate network/wifi and a public open wifi which is basically just a segregated variant of the same connection - browse anything dodgy via a work or personal device on one and you'd be out the door on your ear, use the other and no one cares (unless you are flaunting porn around or something).
This. Giving him access to your system and what he does with it are two separate issues. Most managers won't back up the act of giving away access in the context of a potentially messy HR issue - they'll do whatever's easiest for them, and if two people instead of one need to be thrown to the wolves then so be it.
OP really needs to have a very good relationship with HR at this moment in time. Or take the same approach as the managers would, and find that the employee in question has suddenly met his performance criteria for an easy life.
Depends what work you do. I work in immigration, the sensitive nature of some details could put someone's life at risk whether they are under witness protection due to trafficking or even gender re assignment. If someone was found to be even searching for people they shouldn't be on our systems can and has been gross misconduct, never mind using someone else's login details to take screenshots.
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This. OP breached IT policy in good faith to unblock a job. Verbal warning at worst.
Engineer on PIP used login to dig up dirt on OP. IT policy breach with malicious intent. Gross professional misconduct and open to criminal proceedings depending on what he did with your login. Would expect to see my P45 PDQ if I did this.
This is what my spidey senses are telling me too.
Thing is, this guy has a history of poor performance. Shocking timekeeping, taking sudden half days, not turning up for weekend work, not communicating, arguing with colleagues etc. I've posted in here a fair few times about his antics.
I don't want to get rid, I just want to shake him up a bit so he performs in line with the rest of the team.
He didn't use the login, the system was left logged in by engineer 1.
He used an open system.
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Sorry, how hard is it to create a new account for somebody? I have no clue why the engineer using your details wasn't just given his own access rights.
2 minute job, surely?
2 minute job, surely?