Modern day CPU reviews and what is wrong with them.

[Martini1991]

Maybe, i don't want to turn this into a politics thread but my theory is actually the reason the £ has gone up a little recently, from $1:24 to $1:30.

The business world likes stability, predictability.... Winning the Election gives May a stronger negotiating position in the EU with the Brexit thing, especially if she wins by a landslide, which its predicted she will, a stronger negotiating position = a better deal for the UK, the markets like that, they like the election happening and they will like the outcome.

I'll say no more about it

Never going to get a better deal than membership.
And it doesn't do much for her negotiating position, we're still the same country with the same problems.

 

[laddy]

Hmm, I don't see the point in all the fuss over AMD/Intel.

Right now Intel is still the best for gaming, which is what most people use their PC's for these days.

AMD is better for encoding video, running multiple VM's, or doing those while gaming at the same time.

The problem is that hardly anyone actually encodes video, runs VM's etc, hence why Intel are still recommended/favoured, as they are faster in games.

Besides, this year we'll have 6 core mainstream Intel CPU's (coffeelake) which will annihilate even the 1800x in everything, due to Intel's 14nm++ process development, two additional cores and of course more cache.

intel is best for gaming - it was but now hardly any difference, and with the kaby OC issue , goodbye intel 5.0GHz. Intels old hat has worm out, sandy, ivy. haswell, kaby same engine with a different bore that did give much each time it was done. No fanboy of either- but for amd to bring something new to the table that gives you best of both worlds is fantastic, almost put tears in my eye when reading the reviews. So important for all the fanboys of intel, amd has done you favour, all of us now can sit back and hope this one sided price of an intel cpu has ended.

 

[Martini1991]

intel is best for gaming - it was but now hardly any difference, and with the kaby OC issue , goodbye intel 5.0GHz. Intels old hat has worm out, sandy, ivy. haswell, kaby same engine with a different bore that did give much each time it was done. No fanboy of either- but for amd to bring something new to the table that gives you best of both worlds is fantastic, almost put tears in my eye when reading the reviews. So important for all the fanboys of intel, amd has done you favour, all of us now can sit back and hope this one sided price of an intel cpu has ended.

OC issues of Kaby? What issues are those exactly? Kaby's best clocking since Sandy.

Zen's good, but the low clocks still give Intel the overall gaming advantage, but I think a Zen's an overall better purchase for the future, without compromising the present to any massive degree.

 

[laddy]

http://www.overclock.net/t/1629611/...ners-to-stop-overclocking-to-avoid-high-temps

not just that site, a few have reported over a period of time dead cpu's

 

[Martini1991]

http://www.overclock.net/t/1629611/...ners-to-stop-overclocking-to-avoid-high-temps

not just that site, a few have reported over a period of time dead cpu's

That's not an issue.

 

[mattyfez]

It's a total non argument, if your overclocked chip is running hot then it's a bad clocker, or it has bad cooling so dial it back down.

If it dies at stock speeds, it's a warranty issue.

Name one cpu manufacturer ever that has warrantied overclocking to unknown speeds with unverified hardware.

 

[Disco_P]

http://www.overclock.net/t/1629611/...ners-to-stop-overclocking-to-avoid-high-temps

not just that site, a few have reported over a period of time dead cpu's

That's not an issue.

It's just a statement of their policy and legal jargon for a "problem" that has existed since they started using a thick layer of rubbish thermal paste.

 

[mattyfez]

If you want to feel agreived by anything, you should feel agreived that manufacturers started locking the multi down in the first place.

 

[Martini1991]

It's just a statement of their policy and legal jargon for a "problem" that has existed since they started using a thick layer of rubbish thermal paste.

It's existed long before they stopped soldering on the IHS on the mainstream parts and has nothing to do with that either.

 

[Disco_P]

It's existed long before they stopped soldering on the IHS on the mainstream parts and has nothing to do with that either.

go on...

 

[Martini1991]

go on...

Overclocking has always been a discretion thing, it's never supported officially.
Hence why the same terms apply to their soldered X99 line up also.

 

[triss]

Intel release and price there cpu's in USD . Thats what prices/ comparisions should be based off not other currencies that fluctuate with currency exchange as thats irrelevant really as it depends on the Rate on the day someone is looking at. Which over a year or two's difference can make a substantial change despite intel/AMD not changing the retail price
I dont see how you can discount historical prices because its not today when your talking about a cpu thats going to be released in the future which is also not today..
Personally i'll be very surprised if intel doesnt revisit its prices with the next launches now they have reasonable competition

 

[mattyfez]

Most businesses trade is done in USD, so if the pound is down then the retailer can either suck up the cost or put the price up.

 

[gavinh87]

PC gamer is also useless.

The best gaming processor: Intel Core i5-7600K
The best high-end gaming processor: Intel Core i7-6850K
The best budget gaming processor: Intel Core i3-7100.
The best multi-core processor: AMD Ryzen 7 1700

What they say about the 1700 is laughable :

Gaming performance isn't quite what we hoped for, as it fails to surpass even a Core i5-7600K, but leave the gaming behind and Ryzen 7 has a ton to offer. If you're buying a GTX 1080 Ti and planning on running a high refresh rate 1080p or 1440p display, yes, I'd suggest going with Intel. However, if you also want to do video editing and you don't want to shell out $400 / £400 or more on just the CPU, you might need to reconsider. Plus, for about the same price as the i7-7700K, you can get the Ryzen 7 1700, including a cooler no less—and the great news is that the CPU is still fully unlocked."

The reasons they give for not choosing the 1700 also apply to the 6850K

http://www.pcgamer.com/best-cpu-deals-today-uk/

 

[DragonQ]

That logic makes little sense given it raised in light of the election.

The pound is hurting because of brexit and the uncertainty, given we are walking into a massive conservative majority with theresa hardcore brexit may, it's probably going to get worse. Then again. It does bring certainty in, although she'd have to make some sort of actual outline on intentions for that.

The whole point of having fixed five year parliamentary elections was to bring in "certainty", and yet we're having an election two years after the last one.

Winning the Election gives May a stronger negotiating position in the EU with the Brexit thing, especially if she wins by a landslide, which its predicted she will, a stronger negotiating position = a better deal for the UK, the markets like that, they like the election happening and they will like the outcome.

I'll say no more about it

In what way would "winning the Election give May a stronger negotiating position in the EU"? I know this is the party line parroted by the media but I've yet to see any reasoning for this. What they are trying to do is simply increase their parliamentary majority (which is currently a lowly 12 or around there) so they can pass more Tory-esque acts.

PC gamer is also useless.

The best gaming processor: Intel Core i5-7600K
The best high-end gaming processor: Intel Core i7-6850K
The best budget gaming processor: Intel Core i3-7100.
The best multi-core processor: AMD Ryzen 7 1700

What they say about the 1700 is laughable :



The reasons they give for not choosing the 1700 also apply to the 6850K

http://www.pcgamer.com/best-cpu-deals-today-uk/

Yeah that really doesn't make sense. I feel bad for anyone buying a Core i3 or i5 for a gaming machine this year.

 

[=XDC=FluphyBunny]

Nah not surprise - just responding to the "no one" comment as there are still a not insignificant number of people who do close everything down like its 1999 still heh.

You can include me as well. Out of habit I close anything not needed. Tend to play FPS so no chance of me watching other videos or listening to music (I didn't realise that was a thing while playing a game). Must be getting old.

 

[humbug]

PC gamer is also useless.

The best gaming processor: Intel Core i5-7600K
The best high-end gaming processor: Intel Core i7-6850K
The best budget gaming processor: Intel Core i3-7100.
The best multi-core processor: AMD Ryzen 7 1700

What they say about the 1700 is laughable :



The reasons they give for not choosing the 1700 also apply to the 6850K

http://www.pcgamer.com/best-cpu-deals-today-uk/

Another one...

Core i3 for a gaming CPU? good grief the tech review world really has sunk to the most deprived parts of the gutter.
Yeah i feel sorry for anyone who spends their hard earned cash on recommendations like that.

The only saving grace is that the comments section, just like in Toms Hardware's bizarre nonsensical "Best CPU" crap' is a sea of bamboozled readers screaming "have you lost your minds?"
Intel's marketing guys must have paper burns by now writing all those cheques.....

Unbelievable.

 

[Rroff]

You can include me as well. Out of habit I close anything not needed. Tend to play FPS so no chance of me watching other videos or listening to music (I didn't realise that was a thing while playing a game). Must be getting old.

Great thing about Spotify these days you can have it running on multiple devices and control any logged in instance from any one of them - if I was playing something slower paced and wanted some music I'd just control Spotify on my media setup from my phone/tablet without bothering with running it locally on my gaming PC (though I do often listen from my gaming PC normally as it has the best sound hardware out of my systems).

 

[DragonQ]

You can include me as well. Out of habit I close anything not needed. Tend to play FPS so no chance of me watching other videos or listening to music (I didn't realise that was a thing while playing a game). Must be getting old.

Not so much now but when working out my current CPU and GPU overclocking I had lots of utility applications on my second screen. I also alt-tab between matches all the time so I'll have loads of browser tabs open and other stuff.

 

[ubersonic]

I think you'd be surprised at how many actually do run background apps.

I never run anything in the background when gaming, I have Whatsapp/Discord on the left monitor and Chrome on the right monitor (maybe playing music or He-Man episodes from Youtube) but the centre screen is for games and nothing but games (unless I'm watching a film).