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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%

  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%

  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%
  • Total voters
    528
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https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/deep-learning-ai/developer/



  • NVIDIA TITAN Xp - The fastest accelerator for deep neural network training on a desktop PC based on the revolutionary NVIDIA Pascal™architecture

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2015/03/17/digits-devbox/

another post from Nvidia on how the titan x is a deep learning card

also, when gamernexus did their hybrid mod the viewer that donated their card said it was for deep learning /workstation use giving examples of why it was better than the 1080ti in this regard.
 
melmac said:
Yeah he said it's capable of gaming. But, while it has a gaming mode, he also said that gaming isn't it's focus and he advised that gamers wait for RX Vega.
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simple really, rx vega will have better cooling (through aibs) so might get slightly higher clock speeds.

there's nothing different about rx vega physically, it's the same silicone with half the vram.

think of it like titan x (2016 version) vs 1080ti, cut down vram, same gpu but slightly better clocks due to better cooling.
 
zornyan said:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/deep-learning-ai/developer/



  • NVIDIA TITAN Xp - The fastest accelerator for deep neural network training on a desktop PC based on the revolutionary NVIDIA Pascal™architecture

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2015/03/17/digits-devbox/

another post from Nvidia on how the titan x is a deep learning card

also, when gamernexus did their hybrid mod the viewer that donated their card said it was for deep learning /workstation use giving examples of why it was better than the 1080ti in this regard.
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It says Geforce GTX on it and it uses gaming drivers. NVidia can claim whatever they want, but those two points alone show it's a gaming card.
 
spoffle said:
It says Geforce GTX on it and it uses gaming drivers. NVidia can claim whatever they want, but those two points alone show it's a gaming card.
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you realise the drivers don't matter for deep learning (where this card is targeted at) right?


also vega FE doesn't use pro certified drivers, so wouldn't be used in a professional environment.

so the fact vega FE had a gaming mode makes it a gaming card right?


when in truth, these prosumer cards do both just fine, the pro drivers don't effect gaming performance (as shown by how quadros and dualpros game just the same as their gaming counterparts)
 
spoffle said:
It says Geforce GTX on it and it uses gaming drivers. NVidia can claim whatever they want, but those two points alone show it's a gaming card.
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All this deep learning stuff is just crap IMO.
All this none certified workstation card again just crap.

Just release workstation cards and gaming cards.
 
zornyan said:
Nvidia have said multiple times the titan isn't a gaming gpu, infact they never market the titan as a gaming card which is why reviewers never get one, on the titan Xp page it mentions gaming one with "latest gaming technologies"

at no point is it marketed as a gaming card, Nvidia call it a deep learning card.

just as much as how raja commented on how the vega FE will deliver 4k gaming, and has shown it performing multiple gaming benchmarks (such as at computex)

again, vega FE is NOT a pro card,it lacks pro driver certifications, it lacks ECC memory.

it's a deep learning / prosumer card.
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Again with the Titan's not a gaming card claim

It's amazing how many so enthusiasts keep claiming the Titans are not Gaming cards.
Use the link below it's too Nvidia's official website and all the following quotes are there.

The GeForce GTX TITAN graphics card brings the supercomputing power of the NVIDIA Kepler architecture in to a single pc gaming GPU.

TITAN Black is a masterpiece of design and engineering with the horsepower to play your most demanding games with whisper-quiet acoustics and cool ...

The TITAN Z extreme PC gaming graphics card is a monster of a card, with dual GPUs, 5760 CUDA cores, 12 GB of memory, and 4K monitor support.

Compare and buy NVIDIA Titan Xp gaming graphics cards through the NVIDIA store.



http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/nv_search_uk.html?cx=009029091075083507105:iwth5o2n1m0&cof=FORID:11;NB:1&hl=en-gb&gl=uk&q=Titan
 
zornyan said:
simple really, rx vega will have better cooling (through aibs) so might get slightly higher clock speeds.

there's nothing different about rx vega physically, it's the same silicone with half the vram.

think of it like titan x (2016 version) vs 1080ti, cut down vram, same gpu but slightly better clocks due to better cooling.
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Capable cooling will help with clocks a bit but if its drawing 300+ watts already then it is not going to do much. There will be something different going on inside the RX Vega if its faster, more affordable and with a lower and sensible power draw for the consumer market in achieving/maintaining higher clockspeeds.
 
eddyr said:
Capable cooling will help with clocks a bit but if its drawing 300+ watts already then it is not going to do much. There will be something different going on inside the RX Vega if its faster, more affordable and with a lower and sensible power draw for the consumer market in achieving/maintaining higher clockspeeds.
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like I said, better cooling from aibs, and cheaper.

imagine if they release it at £600, aibs at £650.

"here's your gaming card! slightly higher clock speeds and much cheaper than FE"
 
zornyan said:
you realise the drivers don't matter for deep learning (where this card is targeted at) right?


also vega FE doesn't use pro certified drivers, so wouldn't be used in a professional environment.

so the fact vega FE had a gaming mode makes it a gaming card right?


when in truth, these prosumer cards do both just fine, the pro drivers don't effect gaming performance (as shown by how quadros and dualpros game just the same as their gaming counterparts)
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It's a gaming card. It says Geforce GTX...

They advertise it as the ultimate gaming card and so on. No amount of mental gymnastics are going to change this.

The Vega FE is a mess by the looks of things.
 
zornyan said:
like I said, better cooling from aibs, and cheaper.

imagine if they release it at £600, aibs at £650.

"here's your gaming card! slightly higher clock speeds and much cheaper than FE"
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That is still a card drawing over 300W of power (if the 375W watercooled FE is any indication of what is needed to reliably maintain peak clocks).
It has to be more than an AIB partner's custom cooler. Either a Vega respin with fixes to whatever is hampering the FE Vega or some change to the internal functioning of the chip to provide the required performance within a sane power envelope for the consumer.
 
zornyan said:
simple really, rx vega will have better cooling (through aibs) so might get slightly higher clock speeds.

there's nothing different about rx vega physically, it's the same silicone with half the vram.

think of it like titan x (2016 version) vs 1080ti, cut down vram, same gpu but slightly better clocks due to better cooling.
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Actually the 2016 Titans and 2017 Xps tend to clock slightly better than the 1080 Ti cards.

The memory on the Xps is also very good quality as even at stock it runs faster than most 1080 Ti cards.
 
Kaapstad said:
Actually the 2016 Titans and 2017 Xps tend to clock slightly better than the 1080 Ti cards.

The memory on the Xps is also very good quality as even at stock it runs faster than most 1080 Ti cards.
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I havnt seen any proof of this, my titan XPs didn't overclocked better than the 3 1080tis I've had.

my current Xp clocks 40mhz less than any of the 1080tis I've had.
 
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