it's as much a gaming gpu as a titan is, it has GAMING mode, gaming drivers, on the website gaming is mentioned.
it's an accurate showcase for what to expect with rx vega, it is the same gpu/silicon not some magical 40% performance gain.
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it's as much a gaming gpu as a titan is, it has GAMING mode, gaming drivers, on the website gaming is mentioned.
it's an accurate showcase for what to expect with rx vega, it is the same gpu/silicon not some magical 40% performance gain.
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I am bookmarking a lot of posts just in case vega isn't a flop, if it isn't... it will be very amusing reading them again
Honestly.. I knew these results would happen with FE Vega I knew it wasn't going to kick nvidia in gaming. So I not one bit disappointed
Now I not defending AMD here at also just to be clear if RX Vega releases and its hardly better than last gen AMD feel free to then rip it apart and I will also join with disappointment lol
But what I reading above is just madness tbh this isn't a gaming GPU so it shouldn't be compared for gaming only.
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Yep.
I'm so confused right now myself, been waiting a year for Vega I caved bought a used 980ti but decided to just sell it to a friend because i'm considering freesync down line. And now this? I just want a reasonable upgrade from my 7970Ghz.
AMD U RUIN MY LIFE
Isn't part of the point of Vega FE that you can design in 3D and then switch to in-game software ("gaming" drivers) to view the results?
People would complain of the FE not having the advertised function and AMD would get sued. Instead they release it with drivers capable to giving the performance required for that usage. Someone testing 3D models for function and fit (game design, product prototyping, etc.) is not going to care if they get 100fps or 140fps.
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It's not a accurate showcase at all. You can get an idea this GPU wasn't designed for gaming only I reading information from people claiming to be devs on reddit that this is hardware on the FE that will effect gaming latency and performance. The RX will be designed with just gaming in mind and optimised just for that job.
It has Game mode designed for testing creativity not to be used for playing games it's not optimised for all the games people trying to play. It's optimised for the creation tools nothing more.
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Just skimmed through the last ten pages and I cant fathom what all the fuss is about.
AMD stated its not a gaming card, its not to be compared to RX Vega
Yet people are still doing so and getting all upset about it, its a strange world we live in when people think they know better than the creators of a product and cannot understand simple statements
AMD stated its not a gaming card, its not to be compared to RX Vega
Yet people are still doing so and getting all upset about it, its a strange world we live in when people think they know better than the creators of a product and cannot understand simple statements
But its the same silicon, you can't magic 40% performance from some driver update.
I hope I'm proven wrong.
that the guy claiming to be a VR dev?
yeah that's because he believes FE vega has ECC memory and it will increase performance by 10% not having it.
funny and all, until he was informed that vega FE doesn't have ECC in the first place...
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We're all just having a bit of fun losing our minds, who doesn't love a good unruly mob wielding pitchforks on a Saturday morning?
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Obviously RX Vega will game better than the R-FE, That said the R-FE is still a good way to get an idea of how RX Vega will performm, In Raja Koduri's statement where he said gamers should wait for the RX Vega he also said tthat if you can't wait for the gaming Vega the Frontier is a great card for 4k gaming, Looking at how badly the R-FE struggled with 4k gaming in the testing we've seen that gives cause for concern. It struggled to manage more than 30 fps in a lot of the tested games.
Even if it beats a 1080 slightly and comes in at £200/250, people would still claim that AMD are doomed
It's not called defending, it's called having some common sense and logic to wait until the "final" drivers are released along with the "correct" version of the GPU
Although unlike most here, I was never expecting vega to come close to a 1080ti, I was just expecting 1080 performance, possibly slightly better than 1080 performance...... If gaming vega can't even match a 1080 on release day in every thing then don't worry, I will also be joining in with the AMD are doooooomed posts Like I said earlier, considering this is suppose to be a computer enthusiast forum (and I imagine a lot of people would work in the IT sector too), it just amazes me that people have no clue on how important drivers are for everything tech/hardware related, hardware will only perform as well as what the drivers allow it to...
People bang on about nvidia always being far better for drivers especially in the past but now, it seems like drivers aren't important, at least that is what comes across from reading the majority of posts in here anyway
It is rather amusing too as I posted images/benchmarks of the fury x gaining 30 fps in doom and fallout 4 gaining a 24% improvement just from new drivers but as per usual in this sub-forum, people ignore facts and rather go to their bunkers and declare that doomsday is coming
What complete and utter nonsense this is.
Vega FE is a gaming GPU, exactly the same gaming GPU as RX Vega. There is no difference, there are the same, just like the 1080 is the exact same GPU is the Quadro P5000.
Neither AMD nor Nvidia make separate silicon or gpu architectures for the profesional and gaming GPUs.
And if you really want to ignore gaming and concentrate only on professional software then the Vega FE is slower than the P5000 which is nothing more than a 1080.
Ignoring the gaming results doesn't put Vega in any better light
I am bookmarking a lot of posts just in case vega isn't a flop, if it isn't... it will be very amusing reading them again
Well the old AMD Vega H1 thread is now an amusing thread. Large IPC improvements, power efficient and higher than 1600mhz clocks all at the same time.
1080Ti beater it was going to be.
When pointed out out it will in reality have minor IPC improvements over Fury X and the clock speed would be limited by the immense power consumption, that was all BS. Even when benchmarks came out at 1200mhz and 1500mhz which suggested it might just lose to the GTX 1080, they were all fake benchmarks which couldn't be true.
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I am bookmarking a lot of posts just in case vega isn't a flop, if it isn't... it will be very amusing reading them again
We all know the standard AMD graphics card release:
1.)Release the card with some issue which makes it look worse than it is
2.)Lots of reviews and articles showing this as a result
3.)AMD fix the issue and the product looks solid
4.)Sadly,by then first impressions count and Nvidia still gets most of the sales.
The issue is that it makes AMD look they are "fixing" another problem and this does not help the brand one bit,as a again it feeds into the meme of AMD cards "running hot,consuming too much power and having driver issues",and people then just go and buy Nvidia instead. The thing is whether that meme is actually true or not this launch has not helped especially with all the review sites starting to test the card after spending their own money on one.
This is from someone who actually bought an RX470 themselves and thought it was a solid card and didn't think some of the criticisms of the RX470/RX480 were fare,but it didn't help AMD with the way AMD launched the series too even though they actually did do a good PR campaign for once but it lost momentum.
The problem is advertising it as a gaming card too on the webpage and since they made sure they compared it with the Titan Xp in non-gaming usage,didn't they honestly think it would not be compared in games too?? I would argue most of the consumers wanting to buy Vega will be gamers anyway,since AMD is still more a gaming focused company when it comes to graphics cards.
But they could just buy a Quadro or Radeon Pro and do the small thing. There is nothing special about the ability to run games and pro software, all professional GPUs do that. They run almost the exact smae DX drivers as the gaming GPUs and get exact same performance..
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If it came in under 300 it'd be a best seller but the 580 struggles to come in at that price at the moment.
I'll happily make do with a 1080 competitor if it's priced fairly.
It was only a select few thinking it'd be a Ti beater, Maybe they meant the 980 model
Even if it beats a 1080 slightly and comes in at £200/250, people would still claim that AMD are doomed
If it came in under 300 it'd be a best seller but the 580 struggles to come in at that price at the moment.
I'll happily make do with a 1080 competitor if it's priced fairly.
It was only a select few thinking it'd be a Ti beater, Maybe they meant the 980 model
You can if all the new performance features are currently disabled in the FE card.
i hope so too for all are sakes ....maybe the gaming part of the card is gimped or not yet finished and main features like Tiled rendering are disabled ...as the creation results look ok ...
Seems in gaming 30 / 40% of the gpu is not being used correctly... just does not make sense 14nm 13.1TFLOPS but only be slightly faster than a OCed fury / 1070.....
So maybe there is hope
Does anybody know the transistor count of vega FE?
This is what is irritating me, if the RX vega sucks, then sure thing fire away and slate AMD all you want.
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