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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%

  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%

  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%
  • Total voters
    528
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FYI Navi comes with HBM3.

Also the slowest than expected HBM2 isn't that different that Nvidia pushing out the GTX1080 with slower GDDR5X ram. And now they are selling it with "new" upgraded GDDR5X ram.
That didn't stop people from buying them.
 
Panos said:
FYI Navi comes with HBM3.

Also the slowest than expected HBM2 isn't that different that Nvidia pushing out the GTX1080 with slower GDDR5X ram. And now they are selling it with "new" upgraded GDDR5X ram.
That didn't stop people from buying them.
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Unlikely, unless a Navi refresh comes before the next-arch.

Samsung are the only ones to give a roadmap for HBM3 so far, and they've said late 2019/early 2020. So that's a good 12 months after the first Navi launch.

Maybe there'll be a 'last hurrah' Navi, either 550mm^2+ if it's still monolithic, or 4-IF dies, with HBM3. In order to compete with whatever Nvidia is releasing on 7nm in 2019/2020.

But the first batch of Navi cards will definitely not have HBM3, and probably not HBM2 either, they'll likely use 14 Gbps GDDR6 on 256-bit or 384-bit (full 16 Gbps is not available till an undisclosed time in 2019).
 
Panos said:
FYI Navi comes with HBM3.

Also the slowest than expected HBM2 isn't that different that Nvidia pushing out the GTX1080 with slower GDDR5X ram. And now they are selling it with "new" upgraded GDDR5X ram.
That didn't stop people from buying them.
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Ideally you balance memory bamdwidth with shader throughput. The 256 bit memory bus on Polaris is just slightly too narrow with current gddr5 chips. This is fine though as polaris is well balanced in die size and cost vs performance

The problem comes with needing more. A 44cu using a 384 bit bus and having to compromise with 6gb or over emgineering with 12gb, + power consumption and memory controller die space etc was a no go. Therefore hbm2 for vega does make the most sense at this stage for Amd and hopefully the full speed will be worth the delay.
 
JediFragger said:
2020 sounds like it'd fit a next AMD launch perfectly :) ;)


Would give the Freesync peasants lots of time to save up :p

:D
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Late 2019 (maybe slightly earlier) is also when GloFo switch over to 7nm+EUV.

So a 2020 launch would also allow them to use a semi-mature 7nm+ process. Seems very sensible to me, 7nm+ mature, HBM3, revised arch, all together in 2020.
 
///Rage said:
Looks to match the 1080 within a few fps.
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A decent result, all I noticed was the memory difference being consistent throughout. So thats the first show of HBCC?

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Gerard said:
In reference to the dx12 posts a few pages back, tried bf1 tonight on my card and was a bit choppy, fps were in the 80's and 90's but it just didn't feel like it. Just lacked fluidity. At the start of the round that also hitched a few times which it never does in dx11, seems NV need more work on their dx12 implementation.
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It does the same on my r9 290 and on the rx 480 i had.. It's just dice's implementation that could use some work. I haven't tried it yet on my 1080ti.. Can't be bothered to play bf1 at the moment.
 
malachi said:
...what am I looking at or for?
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Do you see all the red? They all crashing down in value the past few days. His point being profit will be down and people will stop investing meaning availability will improve and therefore price, some may even sell their cards.
 
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I would also recommend just to concentrate on bitcoin and ETH.. rest is mickey mouse money. ETH is a blockchain API meant for building apps/smart contratcs.. the coin thing is ancillary at best

Heres hoping to a free fall.. let this event be the lehman in the virtual currency market :)
 
Mauller said:
well yeah, is why I said "if they ever made this"

also. it has some kind of m.2 riser, who needs more than that on an ultra SFF? :p
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I find only having 4 sata ports on my current mini-ITX system a real pain - even my old Shuttle system could probably take 4 3.5" SATA drives,and with the smaller 2.5" and mSATA drives,its increasingly the motherboards which are the limitation not the space in the case.
 
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