Gender stereotypes to be banned in British adverts

StriderX said:
Surely it's mildly different considering the sorts of events where high-class men would wear leggings, skirts, frilly crap and makeup were you know... very bourgeois, not sure why it changed, i'm sure someone's done a doctorate on it so i won't bother guessing.

I'm sure dressware code has become rather casual in comparison to the 1500s or so.
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It's become rather casual compared to pretty much everything up to the 1950s, but that's another point.

There are other examples that aren't related to high status people only. For example, in ancient Rome a minidress was daily masculine clothing (togas were formal wear). No civilised manly man would cover his legs! It stopped being seen as unmanly after legionaries stationed further north copied the trousers worn by the Gauls because it made sense in the colder weather (but it remained widely seen as being uncivilised).
 
HarryJ said:
Dismissing representation/equality is always done from a position of privilege. It's easy to say "it's not about gender or race" if you are already represented. You are applying your represented experiences as universal.
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People with irrational prejudices against a group usually claim that group (all of it, every single person) is privileged because that allows them to "justify" their irrational prejudices and the irrational discrimination they want as a result.
 
StriderX said:
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Hmm.
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haha :D

HarryJ said:
Dismissing representation/equality is always done from a position of privilege. It's easy to say "it's not about gender or race" if you are already represented. You are applying your represented experiences as universal.
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this is the usual identity politics thing... frankly the biggest source of privilege in the West is probably money not race or gender - the next is probably going to a good school

also being conventionally attractive, being tall, being young or old (depending on the circumstances) can all offer as much 'privilege' as being of a certain race, gender or sexuality
 
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I think perhaps people confuse certain privileged positions of the past with current ones, white old ******** might have been highly privileged 60+ years ago, so ultimately their families will be privileged as a result, good education/good contacts/wealth etc.

Eventually it will balance itself out as society progresses, however some have seen the need to push rather hard for it expecting little resistance only to find there was none in the first place... thus inventing the resistance to it, it's rather sad, as totally unprivileged white male, i have no option but to fight against what i perceive as unjust attacks against me.
 
StriderX said:
I think perhaps people confuse certain privileged positions of the past with current ones, white old ******** might have been highly privileged 60+ years ago, so ultimately their families will be privileged as a result, good education/good contacts/wealth etc.

Eventually it will balance itself out as society progresses, however some have seen the need to push rather hard for it expecting little resistance only to find there was none in the first place... thus inventing the resistance to it, it's rather sad, as totally unprivileged white male, i have no option but to fight against what i perceive as unjust attacks against me.
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What unjust attacks do you feel victim of?
 
Will old ads on YouTube be banned? If not then how will it be decided that they are historic rather than current?
 
Some used the term 'broflakes' the other day to describe the faux-alphas who appear to be terminally offended by the terminally offended.

It's a never ending circle of offense.
 
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RoboCod said:
What unjust attacks do you feel victim of?
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Constant media attacks, has to eventually end up in a mainstream social discourse at some point, thankfully i don't converse with stupid people - so i'm not imminently feeling any annoyance - who believe in thinks because a groupthink has told them to.

The BBC for instance should be impartial/intelligent even in their own affairs, but instead of enlightening the world to why they pay certain men more, it's damage control time instead of discussing the reasons.

Paternity for one, technically they can take just as much time off if they wish... the issue is that they don't, or don't have families in the first place.

Wage negotiation, not discussing this again.

Experience and prestige of certain people.

Contractual obligations, wage negotiation again.

They aren't talking about it, just pandering.
 
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Crpwned said:
Some used to term 'broflakes' the other day to describe the faux-alphas who appear to be terminally offended by the terminally offended.

It's a never ending circle of offense.
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Some aspects of our modern society are beyond retarded.

Sometimes we watch and listen and think, "Really? This is where we're at?" Best thing is not to worry about it, until the bombs start dropping :)
 
FoxEye said:
Some aspects of our modern society are beyond retarded.

Sometimes we watch and listen and think, "Really? This is where we're at?" Best thing is not to worry about it, until the bombs start dropping :)
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That's rather dumb, if you could improve the situation before bombs started dropping... surely that's worthwhile?

This sort of apathy is exactly why we're in this ****** situation in the first place.
 
mid_gen said:
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Well i dunno about you, but i'm not currently wealthy or have anyway to achieve it... so surely i'm entirely right?

Unless you want to blame all white men for the ills of white men from ages past? Are we getting into retroactive reasoning now? I mean you're in Germany, so i guess you agree that all Germans are to be blamed til the rest of time for 1939-1945?
 
StriderX said:
Well i dunno about you, but i'm not currently wealthy or have anyway to achieve it... so surely i'm entirely right?

Unless you want to blame all white men for the ills of white men from ages past? Are we getting into retroactive reasoning now? I mean you're in Germany, so i guess you agree that all Germans are to be blamed til the rest of time for 1939-1945?
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Apparently you can be bankrupt, homeless, dependent on food banks, and be privileged, all at the same time ;)

White male privilege means no matter how bad off you are, you aren't worth helping; or rather, you don't need help. Because with a single wave of your magic white male privilege, you could be living in a mansion.
 
VincentHanna said:
White privilege includes such simple things as getting your CV looked at because you have a 'white' sounding name or being allowed to book Air bnb properties.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-38751307

http://www.benedelman.org/publications/airbnb-guest-discrimination-2016-09-16.pdf
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Both are racism, i'm not sure it has anything to do with perceived privilege, and more to do with familiarity... i mean ultimately it is the people pandering to it that make it acceptable, those foreigners changing their name to suit local perception are just as bad as the fat drunken ******* down the pub shouting obscenities.
 
StriderX said:
Well i dunno about you, but i'm not currently wealthy or have anyway to achieve it... so surely i'm entirely right?

Unless you want to blame all white men for the ills of white men from ages past? Are we getting into retroactive reasoning now? I mean you're in Germany, so i guess you agree that all Germans are to be blamed til the rest of time for 1939-1945?
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If you are a white male in the UK you are privileged.

It doesn't mean that you live a life of luxury. It just means that you've had it easier than someone in the same position who is not a white male.

It's understandable why people don't like to acknowledge this, it means that your failures are despite this advantage and your successes are partly because of it.

Doesn't matter if you're too insecure to acknowledge it, it exists either way.
 
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