Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

[Scougar]

I just don't understand the idea of adding the extra cost of an AIO cooler when you intend to undercut your competitor. Surely an aircooler would have less RMA's and be cheaper to implement, even on a top end card?

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I just don't understand the idea of adding the extra cost of an AIO cooler when you intend to undercut your competitor. Surely an aircooler would have less RMA's and be cheaper to implement, even on a top end card?

Because performance might be even worse??

 

[five8five]

Doesn't necessarily mean that amd have said no custom designs of the card, that really just seems to say availability for reference versions. After how fury x "premium" design turned out i doubt amd would want to chance that fiasco again.

The "custom" XTs, if available, could just be reference cards rebadged with the manufacturer name.

 

[five8five]

I just don't understand the idea of adding the extra cost of an AIO cooler when you intend to undercut your competitor. Surely an aircooler would have less RMA's and be cheaper to implement, even on a top end card?

I agree. I can't see the XTX being cheap for that reason. I think it might be the same price as the Fury X (£650) when it was released.

 

[Jono8]

I agree. I can't see the XTX being cheap for that reason. I think it might be the same price as the Fury X (£650) when it was released.

Surely they are not going to make the same mistake twice? The Fury X was mostly a failure as it cost the same, if not more than the 980Ti, yet the 980Ti was decently faster on average, especially on release. The 980Ti overclocked amazingly well as well compared to the Fury X.

It is looking increasingly like they are going to do the same here and if it is only a bit faster than a 1080 as predicted, I just don't know why you would buy one for the same cost as a 1080TI

 

[LoadsaMoney]

The "custom" XTs, if available, could just be reference cards rebadged with the manufacturer name.

Yup, ala :-

I agree. I can't see the XTX being cheap for that reason. I think it might be the same price as the Fury X (£650) when it was released.

Be way too much that, if you've also got to add on the cost of a new PSU as well.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Be way too much that, if you've also got to add on the cost of a new PSU as well.

Why would I need a new PSU? I have a 1000W already, which I needed for NVIDIA cards.

 

[harney]

U haz top professional Photoshop skills there!!

At least its under the 90dB acceptable limit according to Watchdog.

haz a dona need that adobe rubbish ....paint.net... is dat one for me

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

haz a dona need that adobe rubbish ....paint.net... is dat one for me

A quality piece of software.

 

[five8five]

Why would I need a new PSU? I have a 1000W already, which I needed for NVIDIA cards.

Notice you said Nvidia cards plural

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Notice you said Nvidia cards plural

Yup, had SLI and G-Sync for 2 years before selling a card, and later the monitor.

 

[Telecaster]

I just don't understand the idea of adding the extra cost of an AIO cooler when you intend to undercut your competitor. Surely an aircooler would have less RMA's and be cheaper to implement, even on a top end card?

Is an air cooler cheaper though, when it's got to cool a 300W card? To give you sufficient cooling to maintain similar boost clocks as an AIO cooled card, how expensive would that air cooler need to be?

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Why would I need a new PSU? I have a 1000W already, which I needed for NVIDIA cards.

Others might though, as once you factor in everything else, like CPU etc...., may need minimum 800w.

 

[iB CoMpL3XiTy]

Others might though, as once you factor in everything else, like CPU etc...., may need minimum 800w.

Lol! Oh you forgot the to show you were kind of joking but not really.

 

[Scougar]

Is an air cooler cheaper though, when it's got to cool a 300W card? To give you sufficient cooling to maintain similar boost clocks as an AIO cooled card, how expensive would that air cooler need to be?

The Tri-X from Sapphire was designed to handle over 300W easily for example and it isn't that much more than a stock air cooled card.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

Could they use their new HBCC tech to create a transparent crossfire MGPU solution? That would be a killer feature if possible.....

I do not know the answer to that. But it sounds very plausible that HBCC can be used to map and transfer data between GPU memory. I do wonder if they would need a bridge for that, because it sounds like they could saturate the PCIE lanes with there current plans for HBCC.

 

[old gamer]

The Tri-X from Sapphire was designed to handle over 300W easily for example and it isn't that much more than a stock air cooled card.

Yep, I'm sure the tri x cooler would have handled a Fury x easy and cheaper

 

[Rroff]

I do not know the answer to that. But it sounds very plausible that HBCC can be used to map and transfer data between GPU memory. I do wonder if they would need a bridge for that, because it sounds like they could saturate the PCIE lanes with there current plans for HBCC.

It might be possible for compute type tasks but for gaming very unlikely to be possible with current GPU architectures.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

It might be possible for compute type tasks but for gaming very unlikely to be possible with current GPU architectures.

Not sure which part of my post your referring to. Are you talking about using HBCC to map between GPU memory or saturating PCIE lanes, or both?

 

[Rroff]

Not sure which part of my post your referring to. Are you talking about using HBCC to map between GPU memory or saturating PCIE lanes, or both?

Referring more to the overall aspect of it as per the post you responded to in terms of tying multiple GPUs together as if one GPU.