Girl, 5, fined £150 for lemonade stand

VincentHanna · 21 Jul 2017 at 12:38

Sliver said:
Well in the OP's opening post he does say that the council fined the girl. So therefore surely a councillor dished out the fine right?

I don't think you know what 'Councillor' stands for.

Councillors are elected to the local council to represent their local community

Would you call a cleaner for the council a councilor?

Sliver · 21 Jul 2017 at 12:39

#Chri5# said:
An elected councillor isn't going to be deciding who gets fined for things like that. The enforcement officers will probably issue the fine paperwork and somebody in a backoffice somewhere will process it.

Whatever. I really don't care who dished out the fine. What bothers me is a little girl was fined for selling lemonade. Disgraceful. I can't stand pedantic people. For example, people who bicker over minutia on the internet.

dowie · 21 Jul 2017 at 12:40

Sliver said:
Well in the OP's opening post he does say that the council fined the girl. So therefore surely a councillor dished out the fine right?

nope, a councillor is an elected official, they oversee the running of the council, they don't personally carry out every function

for example your local council has responsibility for collecting your rubbish, this isn't something your locally elected councillors do personally but rather the work is carried out by bin men employed by the council (or by a subcontractor the council has paid)

likewise in this case they've employed enforcement officers to issue fines for these things - again these aren't your local elected councillors, they're council employees...

VincentHanna · 21 Jul 2017 at 12:41

STOP BEING PEDANTIC DOWIE!!

Or as I like to call it, correcting ignorance.

StriderX · 21 Jul 2017 at 12:41

Well the council employed them, that's good enough for me.

VincentHanna · 21 Jul 2017 at 12:43

If the bin men don't collect my rubbish, I call up the council and complain to the waste collection department.

I don't call my local Councillor, as that would be a waste of their time.

dowie · 21 Jul 2017 at 12:43

VincentHanna said:
STOP BEING PEDANTIC DOWIE!!

Or as I like to call it, correcting ignorance.

(not sure if I was going a bit OTT explaining that bin men also aren't councillors but it's the internet so...)

Dan103 · 21 Jul 2017 at 12:44

VincentHanna said:
If the bin men don't collect my rubbish, I call up the council and complain to the waste collection department.

I don't call my local Councillor, as that would be a waste of their time.

Cant believe this is being explained ...

KNiVES · 21 Jul 2017 at 12:45

The fine got cancelled, even the council said the officers should have used common sense. Stupid police with nothing better to do.

Sliver · 21 Jul 2017 at 12:45

VincentHanna said:
STOP BEING PEDANTIC DOWIE!!

Or as I like to call it, correcting ignorance.

Aren't you ignorant about most things? Or are you one of those people who thinks you know it all? I like being ignorant about things because it engages my curiosity and pushes me forward to learn the truth and thus educate my self. Being ignorant isn't a bad thing, it's simply a lack of knowledge which you can fix via research.

Sliver · 21 Jul 2017 at 12:47

Dan103 said:
Cant believe this is being explained ...

Trust me, it didn't require an explanation. It's simply difficult to get your point across to certain people on an internet forum. I'm sure if we had this discussion face to face then there would have been no confusion.

VincentHanna · 21 Jul 2017 at 12:49

I really don't know everything.

The thread the other day about self replicating machines was whoosh over my head.

CREATIVE!11 · 21 Jul 2017 at 12:52

Ehh little common sense goes a long way in life...

Some kid selling little lemonade? nahhhh bruvvvv

gettothechopper said:
Disgusting

I bet she doesnt pay min wage or any corporation tax either, offshoring her profits as well do doubt

scum!

Actually i'm gonna go with this.... i'm repulsed by her tax dodging.

adolf hamster · 21 Jul 2017 at 13:16

TheOracle said:
why is it called common sense?

because it used to be common

Nasher · 21 Jul 2017 at 13:29

Country is filled with jobsworths now :/

Council workers give the public sector a bad name.

Freddie1980 · 21 Jul 2017 at 13:36

HEADRAT said:
Just a lack of common sense by the enforcement officers, they should have just smiled at her and bought some lemonade

How do you make someone fell powerful and important? Put them in yellow Hi His and give them a clipboard.

Burnsy2023 · 21 Jul 2017 at 13:37

It's worth noting the dad is the author if this bool: https://profilebooks.com/the-stupidity-paradox.html

peterwalkley · 21 Jul 2017 at 13:40

VincentHanna said:
If the bin men don't collect my rubbish, I call up the council and complain to the waste collection department.

I don't call my local Councillor, as that would be a waste of their time.

I see what you did there !

VincentHanna · 21 Jul 2017 at 13:42

Nasher said:
Country is filled with jobsworths now :/

Council workers give the public sector a bad name.

Don't tar them all with the same brush.

My girlfriend works for a county council in adult social care. She gets paid a rubbish wage and takes crap off people on the phone a lot of the time for things completely out of her control. It's very demoralizing.

Of course there are perks as well. 28 days holiday and the ability to work from home.

Nasher · 21 Jul 2017 at 13:45

VincentHanna said:
Don't tar them all with the same brush.

My girlfriend works for a county council in adult social care. She gets paid a rubbish wage and takes crap off people on the phone a lot of the time for things completely out of her control. It's very demoralizing.

Of course there are perks as well. 28 days holiday and the ability to work from home.

Yes but council workers are not even in the same league as e.g. MOD civil servants. Theres a big difference in the professionalism and work ethic (though you will probably never meet any).