Sure, I'll say it again: FE has never been marketed as a gaming card, merely as a card you could game on if you wanted to.
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Sure, I'll say it again: FE has never been marketed as a gaming card, merely as a card you could game on if you wanted to.
I hope this is you continuing with some kind of joke? Because you can't seriously look at the Vega FE page and say it's aimed at gamers?
Yeah time it was just put to bed tbh.
https://pro.radeon.com/en-us/product/radeon-vega-frontier-edition/
ah, so you are just trolling as usual. Good to know, I hoped that you wouldn't be stupid enough to actually believe what you were writing.
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RX Vega could be "better" for gamers than FE by being roughly the same perf for 1/2 the price.
Certain posters are expecting it to be significantly quicker than FE, but there's literally no evidence to support this.
"Magic drivers" are going to have to be nothing short of miraculous for some people's expectations here to be met. Still some people looking for "close to 1080ti" perf, when it is almost certainly not going to meet that target. Even AMD's own slides show that RX Vega will not address the very top end.
They're releasing 1070/1080 competitors, and that's where the expectation level should be set.
Certain posters are expecting it to be significantly quicker than FE, but there's literally no evidence to support this.
"Magic drivers" are going to have to be nothing short of miraculous for some people's expectations here to be met. Still some people looking for "close to 1080ti" perf, when it is almost certainly not going to meet that target. Even AMD's own slides show that RX Vega will not address the very top end.
They're releasing 1070/1080 competitors, and that's where the expectation level should be set.
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Amd have form for pushing out a lot of performance through drivers. Raja has said RX Vega will be faster. We could be talking a few % or 20% as remember how big a leap some games got through miracle drivers with the 7970. It pretty much went from gtx680 performance to a commanding lead. Could they be putting the final touches on a performance driver that was not ready for the FE release nobody knows bar them. Nvidia are the more professional outfit and just about get the full performance at release where as AMD seem to keep extracting more and more through time.
There is evidence to support this, Raja said :
Koduri was asked if the consumer RX Vega version of the card will be "as fast as the Frontier version", to which he replied:
"Consumer RX will be much better optimized for all the top gaming titles and flavors of RX Vega will ACTUALLY be faster than Frontier version!"
Read more: http://www.tweaktown.com/news/57629/raja-koduri-talked-radeon-rx-vega-reddit-ama/index.html
There are no 2 ways this can be understood, "actually" is a very important word in this sentence, you could replace actually by "in point of fact" or "in reality" if you want in that sentence.
I said "significantly quicker". Significantly is a very important word in this sentence
Raja just said it would be "better optimised" and "quicker". 5% quicker would validate his words, but wouldn't be significantly quicker in most people's estimations.
I said "significantly quicker". Significantly is a very important word in this sentence
Raja just said it would be "better optimised" and "quicker". 5% quicker would validate his words, but wouldn't be significantly quicker in most people's estimations.
"much better" optimized
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Where most of the market is as well I suppose.
Again, I refer you to AMD's own slide, which showed that Vega will not address the top end of the market.
I can understand some degree of hopeful optimism, but when you ignore AMD's own released materials because it doesn't fit the idea that Vega will compete with a 1080Ti... that's willful ignorance.
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The RX will no doubt be faster, but isn't that obvious if it's running higher and more consistent clock speeds?
Same clocks I expect the FE and RX to be the same performance
Same clocks I expect the FE and RX to be the same performance
No i'm just pointing out words to you, because you said there is no evidence, year old slide can change over time, I mean they should have a better view on performance now than 1 year ago, that's a given. that being said I don't believe that it will be at 1080ti levels, unless the FE has some kind of bios optimization for professional workloads that really kills gaming performance, and they have pointed to FE being pro optimized and RX gaming optimized, on what level they have not said, we will have to wait and see
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Can you link me to this slide please? I can't say I have seen any slide from AMD that definitively states that they will not compete at the top end of the market.
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