Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

[r22snapper]

Do you feel you have to go AMD no matter what?

Yes, £1000 for performance I can buy today for half that is a price well worth paying. That or one or both of us is missing some obvious sarcasm.

 

[Scougar]

There is no chance it being MORE than the "pro" Frontier card. If it is, I think I may laugh till I lose my voice and pass out.

 

[WeSbO]

hehe... no need to go overboard
during the financial analyst day raja had presented a slide which looked something like this

>$500 enthusiasts
>$1000 pro

Well 999$ is still enthusiast grade then

 

[LoadsaMoney]

I'm in as long as performance is better than a 1070 and cost is less than a grand. If I need the extra performance I can always go Crossfire

 

[nashathedog]

Didn't OCuk only get 5 or 6 Fury X for release day?

They may of trickled over the first few day's I'm not sure the issue we had was the noise and people like Loadsa bought 3 or 4 different brand Fury X's in the first 2 or 3 weeks trying to get one without the high pitched pump noise, He ended up buying two of the Fury Tri-X's and I followed suit buying one.

 

[MichaelM]

I thought the red rebellion was about being overcharged for some reason.

 

[nashathedog]

Why don't you go and ask him then seeing as you seem convinced it was some amd skulduggery afoot for whatever reason. Not really sure why this comes under tinfoil hat brigade territory when the card will be reviewed in week or so anyway.

I've got no need to ask him anything I don't walk around with my eye's wide shut, Actions speak louder than word's and someone getting an exclusive first look (of sorts) and then picking the same game AMD have been showing us say's enough for me, I'm not sure why it seems to bother you so much though, we're all entitled to an opinion and mine is that that so called test was a kop out.

 

[Erik13]

I thought the red rebellion was about being overcharged for some reason.

You rebell against normal pricing

 

[Rroff]

I've got no need to ask him anything I don't walk around with my eye's wide shut, Actions speak louder than word's and someone getting an exclusive first look (of sorts) and then picking the same game AMD have been showing us say's enough for me, I'm not sure why it seems to bother you so much though, we're all entitled to an opinion and mine is that that so called test was a kop out.

Since I commented on that video I've been getting all sorts of hate lols.

Doom is an odd choice of game really to demonstrate an apples to apples test as nVidia does very well in Open GL but Vulkan performance is a bit inconsistent even between 2 systems with the same hardware while AMD does very well in Vulkan but Open GL performance can be varied so it makes its hard to find any real common ground plus some parts of the game behave different on different APIs as well i.e. Argent Tower level some parts with a lot of particle effects seem to fall apart a bit on Open GL while later on with detailed interiors Vulkan seems to struggle a bit.

 

[Nablaoperator]

Meanwhile in the city of Rapture
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2017/07/22/tesla-v100-cvpr-nvail/

I know i am hijacking this thread... but what are the chances of consumer volta launching in september?

 

[WeSbO]

AMD are pricing some things crazy at the moment though, they have just launched the wraith max cooler 59$ , that's a crazy price imo. So their GPUs might have crazy prices aswell, I mean their was an AMD dude who said that they had to stop selling their products for too cheap.

 

[Killer7xx]

Meanwhile in the city of Rapture
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2017/07/22/tesla-v100-cvpr-nvail/

I know i am hijacking this thread... but what are the chances of consumer volta launching in september?

I'd say it's very unlikely, they will probably be using GDDR6 so early 2018 at the best.

 

[Rroff]

Meanwhile in the city of Rapture
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2017/07/22/tesla-v100-cvpr-nvail/

I know i am hijacking this thread... but what are the chances of consumer volta launching in september?

Old news now but yeah nVidia could launch something potentially on 12FF later in the year. I'll be surprised actually if we don't see a partial Volta and Pascal refresh release.

 

[Nablaoperator]

Well 999$ is still enthusiast grade then

since you [deliberately] missed the context in my post,
even $9999 > $500... and that thing called infinity, that which doesnt exist

 

[Sacrifice]

PANIC NOT!! https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/commen...nted_on_vega_pricing/?st=j5mr2vtc&sh=c2eaa031

AMD German Facebook page seems to imply it's a placeholder price

 

[Nablaoperator]

I'd say it's very unlikely, they will probably be using GDDR6 so early 2018 at the best.

still.. worth pondering.. he is kind of giving away those low yielding chips.. i heard they produce like 1 per wafer
and heres ayymd peddling engineering samples for previews and setting up like 1 vega desktop for blind-tests

for all we know test engineers at nvidia might be testing a 75% cut down version of volta for gaming purposes

 

[Shaz12]

1K for less than 1080 performance? You have got to be ******** me. This has got to be the worst launch in the history of GPUs.

 

[Gerard]

I've got no need to ask him anything I don't walk around with my eye's wide shut, Actions speak louder than word's and someone getting an exclusive first look (of sorts) and then picking the same game AMD have been showing us say's enough for me, I'm not sure why it seems to bother you so much though, we're all entitled to an opinion and mine is that that so called test was a kop out.

Well your opinion is incredibly flawed to say the least, just seems to be on this forum if people don't get the exact scenario\test they want with the results they were expecting then something "fishy" was going on.

People are always looking for the alternate angle on things like this, if its amd or intel or nvidia doing demos on stage with supposed identical setups then yes there's obviously room for something dodgy to be going on. With this test he done everything possible to remove anything that could be somehow affecting performance and yet people still aren't satisfied. This was only an early look until the reviews finally hit, i'm sure people are just more irritated about the fact there was no numbers on display than anything else.

Regardless people are still going to play the old "waaah biased" card whenever possible when the reviews hit i'm sure.

 

[nashathedog]

Since I commented on that video I've been getting all sorts of hate lols.

Doom is an odd choice of game really to demonstrate an apples to apples test as nVidia does very well in Open GL but Vulkan performance is a bit inconsistent even between 2 systems with the same hardware while AMD does very well in Vulkan but Open GL performance can be varied so it makes its hard to find any real common ground plus some parts of the game behave different on different APIs as well i.e. Argent Tower level some parts with a lot of particle effects seem to fall apart a bit on Open GL while later on with detailed interiors Vulkan seems to struggle a bit.

It doesn't surprise me.

Well your opinion is incredibly flawed to say the least, just seems to be on this forum if people don't get the exact scenario\test they want with the results they were expecting then something "fishy" was going on.

People are always looking for the alternate angle on things like this, if its amd or intel or nvidia doing demos on stage with supposed identical setups then yes there's obviously room for something dodgy to be going on. With this test he done everything possible to remove anything that could be somehow affecting performance and yet people still aren't satisfied. This was only an early look until the reviews finally hit, i'm sure people are just more irritated about the fact there was no numbers on display than anything else.

Regardless people are still going to play the old "waaah biased" card whenever possible when the reviews hit i'm sure.

As I said we're all entitled to an opinion and I struggle to understand why someone who could pick any game would pick the same game as AMD have showed us a couple of times already, Doom on Vulcan may run well on both brands but it's clearly been running better on AMD hardware. If I was given the chance to do some testing with no conditions on the game I use it would have been with a DX11 title not more of the same. It doesn't sit right that a tech reviewer/journalist would pick Doom when all things are considered.

 

[shankly1985]

You guys really believe it's going to cost over £600 for big Vega? I just can't see it tbh