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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%

  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%

  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%
  • Total voters
    528
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TheRealDeal said:
Navi is supposedly smaller Gpu's of upto 4 working as one to give greater performance. A little like Threadripper using infinity fabric to make join i think 4 cpu's together which work as one.
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If they get that right and the performance is there without driver issues, it really will be very exciting new tech worth buying.
 
D.P. said:
A good 1070 is only about 15% slower than a reference 1080. The Vega 64 is about 1080 performance. The Vega 56 is about 20% slower than the Vega 64 based on the clock speeds and core count. .

So no, I expect the 1070 and a Vega 56 to be very close.
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I know this is a vega thread but when you say a good 1070 what manufacturer(s) would that be from. Would an Asus Strix 1070 fall into that category?
 
erazor51 said:
Supported features.

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Apart forr the fact that slide is incorrect, just look at e.g. Timespy benchmark to see Async+graphics working rally well on Pascal, and Pascal GPUs supprot SM6.1 That slide still supports what I said. Pascal supports more DX12 features than Polaris. I know Vega has raised the bar again. Polaris lacks ROV and Conservative Rasterization and has lower tie Tiled resources.
 
JessieD said:
I know this is a vega thread but when you say a good 1070 what manufacturer(s) would that be from. Would an Asus Strix 1070 fall into that category?
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Just look at reviews, most of the AIB ones support higher base clock than default so would fall into the same category.
 
TNA said:
Consider waiting for 7nm Ryzen. That is what I will be doing. By then the architecture will be more mature. Around that time Navi will come out also. If AMD do not mess it up I plan on building a full AMD system around 2019.


They do not need to be the best, they just need to be competitive and shake things up by improving price for performance. Which what Ryzen did and Vega seemingly does not IMO :(
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Yea it's getting harder for me to wait as my machine is getting really long in the tooth now but i will try my hardest.

TNA said:
If they get that right and the performance is there without driver issues, it really will be very exciting new tech worth buying.
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Yea the competition alone should hopefully see prices becoming better.
 
TNA said:
If they get that right and the performance is there without driver issues, it really will be very exciting new tech worth buying.
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Imho that would be pretty revolutionary design change. I have high hopes for Navi, i mean Amd 'must' deliver this time !!! No delays no pr screw-ups everything must be perfect
 
D.P. said:
Define right kind of DX12 support. Most people don't have high core count CPUs so that really isn't a surprising issue. pascal works well with the CPUs most people own. If Polaris requires a high core count cCPU to realize the full potential of DX12 then that is more of a weakness than a strength. One of the goals behind DX12 was to reduce the CPU dependence, not require ever more powerful CPUs with more cores.
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Pascal doesn't scale beyond 4 cores, once they are all fully loaded that's it, you're CPU bottlenecked, with Polaris it will scale past 4 to 6 and beyond
 
It's a shame they couldn't release Vega before Zen, it would have been way better for AMD to end on a high note, it would have definitely softened the Vega blow
 
humbug said:
Pascal doesn't scale beyond 4 cores, once they are all fully loaded that's it, you're CPU bottlenecked, with Polaris it will scale past 4 to 6 and beyond
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And how many users have more than 4 cores?
And how do you know this is a hardware issue and to simply a reflection of the drivers that have been designed around the most commonly owned CPU architectures?
 
For Cry 5 and Wolfenstein 2 Both going to use FP16 on RX Vega
So is VEGA truly depending on Devs to get the best out of the GPU otherwise you really just have an overclocked FuryX with the features disabled?
AMD released A Game Profiler with Driver 17.7.2 to give the game developers direct access to the full GPU so hopefully these Features that require dev teams to use will be taken onboard and not forgotten about Lol

 
I would expect if there really was a limitation to the scaling in the Nvidia drivers that they would at least scale out to 8 cores efficiently. This reflects the i7 architecture which has been around since it launched many many moons ago.
 
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