Luton airport and car vandals

[Nasher]

If they really don't want them there, they could stick a tow eye in them and physically drag them somewhere. Instead of smashing them up.

But yea...Luton.

If I HAD to park in Luton for a long period, I'd just buy a £100 banger and dump it there lol.

 

[Yaayuh!]

Luton is a hole indeed. But that's still some disgraceful behaviour from the residents.

 

[Glanza]

I don't support vandalism at all but if I lived on a street full of people using it as a car park I would find it somewhat tiresome.

+1 , we get this at work aswell, parking outside our shop and leaving the car 8.30 - 5 spoke to council but as usual nothing happens and it's stopping customers parking close to us which is annoying when it's a OAP trying to bring in PC equipment.

 

[ubersonic]

Not normally a fan of vandalism but in this case if the council were unwilling to help then I think the car owners got what they deserved. If you're enough of a scumbag to leave you car parked in front of somebody's house for a couple of weeks while you go on holiday just so you don't have to pay for parking then this is pretty much karma.

If a large amount of people abandoned their cars on my street for a couple of weeks forcing residents to park miles away or pay a small fortune to use car parks then eventually something bad would end up happening to the cars as an example to others, hell it would on any street

 

[grudas]

Not normally a fan of vandalism but in this case if the council were unwilling to help then I think the car owners got what they deserved. If you're enough of a scumbag to leave you car parked in front of somebody's house for a couple of weeks while you go on holiday just so you don't have to pay for parking then this is pretty much karma.

If a large amount of people abandoned their cars on my street for a couple of weeks forcing residents to park miles away or pay a small fortune to use car parks then eventually something bad would end up happening to the cars as an example to others, hell it would on any street

you're missing the point. The council should be sorting it out, the people that parked there did NOTHING wrong. If there's no parking restriction then why shouldn't they park? I mean my road is next to a train station so by default it is pay and display with two hour limit or resident parking permit only. No one parks there during the day. And it's all avoided. It is councils responsibility to sort it out.

you think everyone will now stop parking there? doubt it. If someone did that to my car I'd be arming my self with bricks and expressing my opinion through their window.

 

[Scania]

Luton is indeed a dump and I'm not surprised to read it's happening there, it'll probably become an issue elsewhere- Hounslow (Heathrow) has this issue although I don't hear if cars being smashed up!

I'm off to Cyprus on Saturday for a week and I'll be parking in Jetparks Manchester as I always do, I've noticed plenty of people who park on side streets and walk into the park to get the free bus to the terminals (and make no secret of it!)....

 

[mw8t]

you're missing the point. The council should be sorting it out, the people that parked there did NOTHING wrong. If there's no parking restriction then why shouldn't they park? I mean my road is next to a train station so by default it is pay and display with two hour limit or resident parking permit only. No one parks there during the day. And it's all avoided. It is councils responsibility to sort it out.

you think everyone will now stop parking there? doubt it. If someone did that to my car I'd be arming my self with bricks and expressing my opinion through their window.

It's called basic manners. It's called courtesy. It's called respect for others.

I don't care if no law has been broken. The car owners have got what they deserved. The end.

 

[DereksDontRun]

It's called basic manners. It's called courtesy. It's called respect for others.

I don't care if no law has been broken. The car owners have got what they deserved. The end.

but doesn't basic manners, courtesy and respect extend as far as other people's property? instead of vandalism, shouldn't they goto the council/police (report as abandoned?) instead of criminal damage?

 

[ubersonic]

but doesn't basic manners, courtesy and respect extend as far as other people's property?

There is the mentality that you should try to be nice to people even if they act badly towards you yes, however after years of people acting badly towards you it's understandable if somebody takes a stand.

instead of vandalism, shouldn't they goto the council/police (report as abandoned?) instead of criminal damage?

According to reports they did, this was their last option.

I'm not normally a fan of vigilantism, but the offenders here were clearly taking the ****.

 

[grudas]

I'm not normally a fan of vigilantism, but the offenders here were clearly taking the ****.

and the "offenders" will continue doing that because there are no restrictions. Are the residents going to continue smashing the cars? do you not see where you logic fails?

if council does nothing stick a sofa in the parking space but smashing other peoples property who probably unintentionally simply followed the law and parked in unrestricted road is a bit over the top don't you think?

I understand if it was the same person parking over and over again month after month in front of someones house.

 

[SC0TTRS]

New article, Luton residents can't get cheap car and home insurance because the area is declared a major crime hot spot!.

 

[grudas]

New articular, Luton residents can't get cheap car and home insurance because the area is declared a major crime hot spot!.

I can see them moaning when council puts in permit only parking and asks them up to pay up £120 a year too council is getting bricked next because that's the only social way of solving the problem.

 

[ubersonic]

peoples property who probably unintentionally simply followed the law and parked in unrestricted road

I am by no means a good person but I wouldn't dream of inconveniencing people by dumping my car outside their house for 2-3 weeks while I went on holiday just because there was no law against it.

 

[mw8t]

but doesn't basic manners, courtesy and respect extend as far as other people's property? instead of vandalism, shouldn't they goto the council/police (report as abandoned?) instead of criminal damage?

If you had bothered to read my first post you will realise i qualified my stance with 'if official routes have been explored and ignored'

 

[grudas]

If you had bothered to read my first post you will realise i qualified my stance with 'if official routes have been explored and ignored'

it still doesn't give you the right to smash someones property end of. I'm surprised people are even having this discussion.

 

[adolf hamster]

it still doesn't give you the right to smash someones property end of. I'm surprised people are even having this discussion.

doesn't give them the right, but it does give a pretty strong motive.

the problem here is that people making dick moves (ie using a private street as free parking and causing continuing hassle for the residents) has now reached the stage of being met head on.

both parties are wrong in this case (from the moral and just generally being a decent human being perspective rather than the purely legal perspective), but one party is the instigator and the other the reactionary, so does that not count for something?

 

[Nasher]

New article, Luton residents can't get cheap car and home insurance because the area is declared a major crime hot spot!.

Amusingly that is what will happen. Multiple owners will come back to a smashed up car and report a crime, insurer will pay up and they move on with a slightly higher premium for a few years. But Insurance in that postcode will rocket up for the locals and they will indirectly end up paying for the damage they just did, probably for the next decade at least.

Luton is already a crime hotspot with high insurance. If I was to move there, I'd be paying 3x as much to insure the same car lol

 

[TheVoice]

both parties are wrong in this case (from the moral and just generally being a decent human being perspective rather than the purely legal perspective), but one party is the instigator and the other the reactionary, so does that not count for something?

Not really, the reaction isn't proportionate to the initial event that instigated it. Parking outside someone's house causes little more than annoyance and inconvenience, deliberately damaging someone's property incurs them major inconvenience and the cost of repairs. "Enough is enough" isn't really justification for smashing someone's car in.

 

[Invertigo]

doesn't give them the right, but it does give a pretty strong motive.

the problem here is that people making **** moves (ie using a private street as free parking and causing continuing hassle for the residents) has now reached the stage of being met head on.

both parties are wrong in this case (from the moral and just generally being a decent human being perspective rather than the purely legal perspective), but one party is the instigator and the other the reactionary, so does that not count for something?

Except it's not a private street, by any definition. It's a council owned road, therefore free public access and use, with no council enforced parking restrictions. Therefore anyone with a legally taxed/insured vehicle can park there for free.

 

[adolf hamster]

Not really, the reaction isn't proportionate to the initial event that instigated it. Parking outside someone's house causes little more than annoyance and inconvenience, deliberately damaging someone's property incurs them major inconvenience and the cost of repairs. "Enough is enough" isn't really justification for smashing someone's car in.

you're forgetting time here, if it was an isolated event i'd totally agree- we sometimes get folks parking in the way of our drive making it much more difficult to get out (or even impossible) and they get nothing more than a polite note.

however over time those little annoyances build up, for example if i tapped you lightly on the shoulder once, you'd think nothing of it. if i did it every 30 minutes constantly then i wonder how long before you'd hit me?

don't get me wrong, i totally agree that smashing someone's car up is a low thing to do, and i firmly beleive there should be a circle of hell dedicated to people who randomly key cars, but this isn't random is it? it's motivated.