Or perhaps just even more evidence that Kraft are a bunch of *****.
McDonalds workers due to strike for £10 an hour...
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Or perhaps just even more evidence that Kraft are a bunch of *****.
"Brave" is not how I would want my strike to be termed. Reminds me of "Yes, Minster" where Jim Hacker is petrified when Sir Humphrey describes Jim's policy as "brave".
I have some friends who are habitual protestors, union supporters and, obligatory, hard core vegans. I wonder if they'll turn out in support this time or not.
It won't be long before Maccas are almost fully automated - Then they'll only have to worry about a couple of employees and a load of robots
There will be more and more job sectors soon where unions will have to be careful due to automation.
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Corbyn loves to get his oar in on these doesn't he? And McDonnell.
Utter nonsense
As soon as it's viable for workers at Mc Donalds to be replaced by machines/robots then they will do it, IRRESPECTIVE of how much the workers are paid.
The majority of massive corps. like Mc Donalds don't give two ***** about employing workers, all they care about is bottom line and keeping the shareholders happy.
As for the strike, good for them. It's both morally and ethically disgusting that a company that posted profits of $1.1 billion in 2016 can get away with paying so little to the hard workers that actually helped create such a high profit. It shouldn't be legal imho
Utter nonsense
As soon as it's viable for workers at Mc Donalds to be replaced by machines/robots then they will do it, IRRESPECTIVE of how much the workers are paid.
The majority of massive corps. like Mc Donalds don't give two ***** about employing workers, all they care about is bottom line and keeping the shareholders happy.
As for the strike, good for them. It's both morally and ethically disgusting that a company that posted profits of $1.1 billion in 2016 can get away with paying so little to the hard workers that actually helped create such a high profit. It shouldn't be legal imho
Dont be stupid, every major business would collapse with that kind of thinking.
And if that was the case, imagine how few would be left working for companies then, you would cripple the work force as no employer would take on that many poeple.
All McDonalds staff are doing is about halfing the time before touch screens are completely rolled out and the front desk is removed completely.
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Of course they do. Strikes = More publicity for his union paymasters.
lawl
That's the exact dribble that david cameron and all his chinless tory lowlife friends trotted out when Labour first introduced minimum wage.
That thousands of small business's would collapse and that a minimum wage would be disastrous for the economy.
The economy significantly boomed after Labour introduced the minimum wage!
If the only way you can make profit is by exploiting other human beings than you don't have a sustainable business and absolutely it should go bust, it's pretty easy to make money when you effectively have slave labour
lawl
That's the exact dribble that david cameron and all his chinless tory lowlife friends trotted out when Labour first introduced minimum wage.
That thousands of small business's would collapse and that a minimum wage would be disastrous for the economy.
The economy significantly boomed after Labour introduced the minimum wage!
If the only way you can make profit is by exploiting other human beings than you don't have a sustainable business and absolutely it should go bust, it's pretty easy to make money when you effectively have slave labour
You dont have slave labour. You have people go and work for them. Don't like it, leave and get another job elsewhere.
What you are proposing and minimum wage is completely different. What your suggesting is that all companies should divvy up there profits per year.
Think about the overall idea of that and you would have companies shelve off 1000s of workers, automate as much as possible, or severely ramp up there efforts to do so where applicable. Basically then when any company got to a certain size they would stop, as there would be no returns for the share holders or owners.
You mean like Argos ? As soon as they put the touch screens in it reminded me of that... Will I be able to soon take my limp looking sorry excuse for a burger back for a refund as it looks nothing like the picture ?
Wonder how long it will be before you collect your burger from Argos ?
You mean like Argos ? As soon as they put the touch screens in it reminded me of that... Will I be able to soon take my limp looking sorry excuse for a burger back for a refund as it looks nothing like the picture ?
Wonder how long it will be before you collect your burger from Argos ?
IIRC the kiosks reduced the number of till staff but you can't reduce it entirely really. Wonder how long though before a lot of the backend jobs become 90% automated - a lot of warehouses have moved to using voice systems, more use of optical code recognition systems, etc. reducing some staff requirements a long the way but doesn't seem to yet be much motivation in more automated put away/replenishment and picking systems.
DO you have the same number of staff in Argos now than what they had in the 90s?You mean like Argos ? As soon as they put the touch screens in it reminded me of that... Will I be able to soon take my limp looking sorry excuse for a burger back for a refund as it looks nothing like the picture ?
Wonder how long it will be before you collect your burger from Argos ?
What happens when they take the warehousing part of it and adopted an Amazon style system?
Then you do have a complaint itll be handled in store via 2 people, or, they could move it to an Automated return system like Amazon stores via Email.
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So yet more low skilled workers with over inflated opinions of their worth then?
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lawl
That's the exact dribble that david cameron and all his chinless tory lowlife friends trotted out when Labour first introduced minimum wage.
That thousands of small business's would collapse and that a minimum wage would be disastrous for the economy.
The economy significantly boomed after Labour introduced the minimum wage!
If the only way you can make profit is by exploiting other human beings than you don't have a sustainable business and absolutely it should go bust, it's pretty easy to make money when you effectively have slave labour
Or just automate them away. Because we can now.
Why should they, they're not a charity, if they have a way to automate things whereby they can do the same thing more efficiently/employing fewer people then surely that's a good thing... I mean that is how we've progressed in the developed world over a couple of centuries now - that's what all companies ought to be aiming for, they ought to strive to become more efficient or else someone else ought to come in with a more efficient way of doing things and eat their lunch.
the sooner the tube gets automated the better tbh...
I think we need to assume that automation is inevitable, in most sectors.
And unemployment along with it.
But that does pose problems. The automation only makes sense so long as enough people have money to buy your product, such that the investment in automation makes sense.
And yet the more we automate the more people will have little/no income, in turn reducing their spending power.
We need people to work - not because their work is useful, always, but because we need as many as possible to have an income.
However the goal of every employer is to be as productive as possible with as few staff as possible.
Beats me how it will resolve itself in the long term. I can't see us all being artists and artisans. Neither does a universal income work in the real world.
We'll probably go through some kind of massive scale poverty and die-off before we get to the future society that works, and is also 99% automated.
A lot of confectionary has decreased in size over the last few years, or gone to 3 packs instead of 4 so on a say per 100g basis I'd bet it's gone up in price by a lot