Give up your spare room for a grand?

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NHS trialling Airbnb-style stays in people's spare rooms for patients recovering from operations.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ients-essex-recovery-operations-a8019746.html

And who will these folk be cared by as if they are well enough to leave hospital then surely they would prefer to go home and perhaps have the distinct nurse pop in except 28% of district nurses have been cut since 2010 so perhaps it is the untrained you or I that must look after these folk, still for a grand i might be persuaded.
 
It does appear to be a bit of a pointless joke.

Also, who's responsible for feeding them, and hygiene etc

What I don't understand is what do they plan to do about this problem long term?
 
As long as it requires no care and they have their own care providers to come in, then for that money then yes, especially if you could do like just 1 week a month.

Edit - or not. Sounds like you have to be at home all day as well and heat up 3 microwave meals a day for them.
 
Glaucus said:
As long as it requires no care and they have their own care providers to come in, then for that money then yes, especially if you could do like just 1 week a month.

Edit - or not. Sounds like you have to be at home all day as well and heat up 3 microwave meals a day for them.
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Yep. We have a name for places like this. It's called a hospital.

If they're really struggling for beds, they should buy a local travel lodge and convert it.
 
Stretch said:
Yep. We have a name for places like this. It's called a hospital.
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We lack them, Tories had the great idea of closing loads down and turning the remaining into super hospitals, not only is there less beds than the old ones, it now takes longer to get to them.
 
Kronos said:
if they are well enough to leave hospital then surely they would prefer to go home and perhaps have the distinct nurse pop in
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I thought the point was it was for people who live alone, elderly etc... but are well enough to be discharged.

Obviously if they live in a bungalow and have a partner say then it perhaps isn't needed. But perhaps for someone who lives alone and is recovering from an operation and can't use stairs etc.. then this is a potential solution - at least it is better than them occupying a hospital bed.

Stretch said:
Yep. We have a name for places like this. It's called a hospital.
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I think you're missing the point of this - it seems to be for people who are well enough to be discharged from hospital
 
Glaucus said:
We lack them, Tories had the great idea of closing loads down and turning the remaining into super hospitals, not only is there less beds than the old ones, it now takes longer to get to them.
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I do struggle to understand why something which cost forever more money gets progressively ****** every year.

Can you imagine going in for an op, and then ending up in some strangers house, eating microwave meals and potentially no access to basic amenities, TV, Internet etc.

If I'd paid for the pleasure, I'd ask for my money back. Oh wait, we did.
 
Stretch said:
What I don't understand is what do they plan to do about this problem long term?
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One assumes that successive governments have been aware of the rising population over the past 30 years or so yet they have cut hospital beds by over 50% then of course we have the problem of people who remain in hospital unnecessarily because there is no onward care for them again bought about for the most part by cuts. Ideas like these are just plain silly as how many patients could a hospital actually place?

dowie said:
I thought the point was it was for people who live alone, elderly etc... but are well enough to be discharged.

Obviously if they live in a bungalow and have a partner say then it perhaps isn't needed. But perhaps for someone who lives alone and is recovering from an operation and can't use stairs etc.. then this is a potential solution - at least it is better than them occupying a hospital bed.
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But these people invariable need ongoing care not a landlord and I doubt that there are to many of us qualified to give them the care that might be needed.
 
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It's time the government started providing people with some level of contractual obligation for the services they provide. It cost a fortune, but we seem to get less and less my the minute. Healthcare, pensions, police etc etc.
 
Kronos said:
But these people invariable need ongoing care not a landlord and I doubt that there are to many of us qualified to give them the care that might be needed.
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why do you doubt that - if these people lived with a partner then they'd not need this and yet most people's partner's aren't medically qualified etc..

these can literally be things like someone can't use stairs for a couple of weeks etc..

I'm not sure you need any qualifications to heat up 3 microwave meals a day
 
I thought this is for patients who are pretty much recovering to go home, eg. are recovering, dont need medical attention and really just need someone there to check in on them once in a while, eg for food/drink/help getting up. If that is the case, i don't see why it would be a huge deal
 
Glaucus said:
We lack them, Tories had the great idea of closing loads down and turning the remaining into super hospitals, not only is there less beds than the old ones, it now takes longer to get to them.
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And Labour thought what a great idea, and launched their own super hospitals funded by PFI.
 
Millions to Pakistan? The NHS budget is 122 BILLION.

So many beds are taken up by old people that are well enough to be discharged, but don't have a care package in place due to lack of investment in social care. This is what happens when you have an ageing population and 7 years of austerity.
 
VincentHanna said:
Millions to Pakistan? The NHS budget is 122 BILLION.

So many beds are taken up by old people that are well enough to be discharged, but don't have a care package in place due to lack of investment in social care. This is what happens when you have an ageing population and 7 years of austerity.
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It don't cost billions to build a hospital, I wasn't suggesting it would pay for the whole NHS ? What is our total foreign aid budget, foreign aid. In 2015, that translated to a total spend of £12.1bn,

How many hospitals will that build in a year?
 
Kind of ironic that the nhs has become a victim of its own success- straining to support an aging population that only managed to happen because the nhs kept them going

On a serious note i dont get how this is meant to work, unless the concept is simply to discharge patients but keep them closer to the hospital just in case?
 
Oh please LabR@t, you think disaster relief and vaccinating poor children from highly infectious and contagious diseases is not worth the money?

Hospitals cost loads, staffing them costs loads and at the moment, more and more staff are leaving the NHS to work private.

Sell your deep seated hate for poor and foreign countries elsewhere, this thread was too much of a stretch.
 
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