Give up your spare room for a grand?

LabR@t said:
Again why? Not the pretty little snowscape you have been lead to believe the world is...lol
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Just the growing anti-foreigner sentiment. People love blaming their own countries problem on other peoples as weak excuses. I have encountered more open prejudice, discrimination and racism in the last few years than when i was growing up. Must be easier to be on the giving end i suppose
 
Glaucus said:
If you didn't guess space programs make far more money than what the government ploughs into them.
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Maybe in the 60's and 70's but I haven't seen any recent evidence for that. Do you have it? I have heard them say many times what apollo made but I also read a book that said how the Shuttle wasn't a success financially at all.
 
Avenged7Fold said:
Just the growing anti-foreigner sentiment. People love blaming their own countries problem on other peoples as weak excuses. I have encountered more open prejudice, discrimination and racism in the last few years than when i was growing up. Must be easier to be on the giving end i suppose
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Not having enough money to build hospitals whilst giving billions away is not blaming foreigners it's simple arithmetic.

Do you think if it was the other way around they would give us money?
 
LabR@t said:
Not having enough money to build hospitals whilst giving billions away is not blaming foreigners it's simple arithmetic.

Do you think if it was the other way around they would give us money?
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If they gained politically from doing so, then ofc they would.

This is a thread about NHS hospital beds, not foreign aid or Pakistani budgeting, take your prejudices elsewhere if you don't want to keep this on topic. Make your own thread if you feel the need.
 
Avenged7Fold said:
If they gained politically from doing so, then ofc they would.

This is a thread about NHS hospital beds, not foreign aid or Pakistani budgeting, take your prejudices elsewhere if you don't want to keep this on topic. Make your own thread if you feel the need.
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It's relevant, but by all means continue to stick your head in the sand, why are you singling out Pakistan? Trying to paint me a certain way are you?
 
:p Sorry, did i not mention the other two countries you dislike?


Didn't feel i had to quote the whole post, i can edit it to include spending in the Indian space program. To be fair you did change that to all aid going to foreigners later.

Okay, this thread is not about foreign aid or foreign budgets, regardless of who they are or why you don't like them, be it due to their space program or nuclear spending or whatever.
 
Avenged7Fold said:
:p Sorry, did i not mention the other two countries you dislike?


Didn't feel i had to quote the whole post, i can edit it to include spending in the Indian space program. To be fair you did change that to all aid going to foreigners later.

Okay, this thread is not about foreign aid or foreign budgets, regardless of who they are or why you don't like them, be it due to their space program or nuclear spending or whatever.
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Did I say I didn't like? No. Do we send them vast amounts of UK tax payers money? Yes.
Sorry but you ain't getting away with p laying that one with me. Miss quoting par for course isn't it.
 
LabR@t said:
Did I say I didn't like? No. Do we send them vast amounts of UK tax payers money? Yes.
Sorry but you ain't getting away with p laying that one with me. Miss quoting par for course isn't it.
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This whole aid thing is a stupid argument. It doesn't target the problem and you could talk about any UK budget that way.

Ignoring that the aid spending is for political reasons as well as humanitarian reasons and ignoring that the amount would not stretch far at all, how would we staff these hospitals?

Many wards are forced to close due to staff shortages these days. There are plenty of vacancies for staff, unfortunately working for the NHS becomes less desirable by the day.

The argument of foreign aid not only does not hold water, it is irrelevant to the thread. The reasoning behind it is a shaky attempt at justifying the bitterness you feel for the countries that receive aid. I don't need to misquote you, you are the one fixated enough to make an irrelevant point to take a jab at these countries.

If money was the issue, then the problem lies as much with NHS spending as it does with funding. There are lucrative medicine contracts given to mates of the elites that end up costing the NHS several times more money on some medicines than it should actually cost, for example.
 
I look forward to Doris from number 78 being hauled before a safeguarding board because she thought she was signing up for airbnb.

To be honest it doesn't sound like this was ever a serious consideration, likely they had a sounding meeting where they were asked to come up with any idea, no matter how outlandish, then they were asked to do a bit of scoping. To be honest with the seeming lack of interest from government in actually reinventing health and social care to tackle the current crisis all avenues need to be looked at, but when you do that 98% of the ideas you come back with are likely to be crap.

For those saying just build more hospitals and then you'll have more beds, it's not a physical bed shortage, it's an inability to bring enough resource to bear in order to deal with demand. A good proportion of hospitals will have closed wards at the moment but will still be reporting 95% occupancy because you don't count a bed as vacant if you don't have the required staff to man it. Space is at a premium but it's not the biggest issue by any stretch, clinicians and staff will likely be the biggest bottleneck.
 
What are the insurance implications of this? Old Mr.Jones is discharged after his hip replacement. He appears well, physically and mentally, but needs assistance and a watching eye. All goes fine for a few weeks, then you bring him his re-heated meal to find him in a position of rigor. His grasping siblings eye your mortgage free gaff, the new cars on the drive and their solicitor sees the new blame and claim niche market.

Or old Mrs.Smith, with the peroxide hair and somewhat inappropriately young dress sense accuses you of some sexual impropriety and to your neighbours you become the new Harvey of Acacia Avenue, whilst the acidic old bint enjoys her moment of notoriety and eyes her potential compensation, whilst making it difficult to turf her out of your immaculate family home.

I see this as ill conceived and a potential cause of many hours spent in distasteful legal wranglings or even ruinous law suits. Normal tenants are bad enough, risk wise, ones with health issues straight from the NHS's allegedly cash strapped administrations sound like a nightmare...
 
OK, so obviously this won't happen, but if it did, would anyone be surprised? The NHS is being overburdened and underfunded. Something has to give sooner or later.
 
Chris Wilson said:
What are the insurance implications of this? Old Mr.Jones is discharged after his hip replacement. He appears well, physically and mentally, but needs assistance and a watching eye. All goes fine for a few weeks, then you bring him his re-heated meal to find him in a position of rigor. His grasping siblings eye your mortgage free gaff, the new cars on the drive and their solicitor sees the new blame and claim niche market.

Or old Mrs.Smith, with the peroxide hair and somewhat inappropriately young dress sense accuses you of some sexual impropriety and to your neighbours you become the new Harvey of Acacia Avenue, whilst the acidic old bint enjoys her moment of notoriety and eyes her potential compensation, whilst making it difficult to turf her out of your immaculate family home.

I see this as ill conceived and a potential cause of many hours spent in distasteful legal wranglings or even ruinous law suits. Normal tenants are bad enough, risk wise, ones with health issues straight from the NHS's allegedly cash strapped administrations sound like a nightmare...
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Your main issues is likely to be when Mrs Smith falls down the stairs, or you try to be a helpful chap and assist with her medication a little bit because she's losing her sight don't you know.
 
Chris Wilson said:
What are the insurance implications of this? Old Mr.Jones is discharged after his hip replacement. He appears well, physically and mentally, but needs assistance and a watching eye. All goes fine for a few weeks, then you bring him his re-heated meal to find him in a position of rigor. His grasping siblings eye your mortgage free gaff, the new cars on the drive and their solicitor sees the new blame and claim niche market.

Or old Mrs.Smith, with the peroxide hair and somewhat inappropriately young dress sense accuses you of some sexual impropriety and to your neighbours you become the new Harvey of Acacia Avenue, whilst the acidic old bint enjoys her moment of notoriety and eyes her potential compensation, whilst making it difficult to turf her out of your immaculate family home.

I see this as ill conceived and a potential cause of many hours spent in distasteful legal wranglings or even ruinous law suits. Normal tenants are bad enough, risk wise, ones with health issues straight from the NHS's allegedly cash strapped administrations sound like a nightmare...
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At last, someone speaks some sense, i had to double check i wasnt in a thread discussing Pakistan's nuclear programme :)

Insurance wise, who pays up if a patient under one's so called care goes to the toilet and falls resulting in a split forehead?

This is a ridiculous idea.

e: Because, as we all know, there are to many ***** out there for it to work.
 
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