War crimes defendant takes poison during live trial

dirtychinchilla · 29 Nov 2017 at 15:46

Nasher said:
Also whats with them asking him to "please do this and that", like he's there by choice.

It's probably a formality that they choose to recognise, like calling people in the house of commons honorable member etc.

Prison is a place where you lose your liberty, not somewhere where you should be treated like an animal. I'm sure many prisoners would live in squalor in exchange for the ability to walk free.

platinum87 · 29 Nov 2017 at 16:12

I like how everyone is confused and he says "that's was poison i drank"

Nasher · 29 Nov 2017 at 16:31

dirtychinchilla said:
It's probably a formality that they choose to recognise, like calling people in the house of commons honorable member etc.

Prison is a place where you lose your liberty, not somewhere where you should be treated like an animal. I'm sure many prisoners would live in squalor in exchange for the ability to walk free.

They don't have to treat them like animals, but there should be no entertainment or luxuries there at all.

Boredom should be part of the punishment. Paint everything grey, no TV, no music, give them the same food every day, etc.

Pawnless Endgame · 29 Nov 2017 at 18:13

The court room should become one of the new room choices on Cluedo.
Poison should be added as a weapon choice.
And who did the daaaaaaaastardly deed? The player!

FoxEye · 29 Nov 2017 at 18:59

Nasher said:
They don't have to treat them like animals, but there should be no entertainment or luxuries there at all.

Boredom should be part of the punishment. Paint everything grey, no TV, no music, give them the same food every day, etc.

Like I always say, justice isn't about revenge. It isn't about "getting even".

There is no place for torture, or cruel or unusual punishment, in the justice system. They lose their liberty, that is sufficient.

Skunkworks · 29 Nov 2017 at 19:12

Thought it would be a big dramatic gesture, but had to explain it when no-one noticed.

Sasahara · 29 Nov 2017 at 19:39

FoxEye said:
Like I always say, justice isn't about revenge. It isn't about "getting even".

There is no place for torture, or cruel or unusual punishment, in the justice system. They lose their liberty, that is sufficient.

How do you quantify losing partial liberty as being sufficient?

And that in itself could be classed as cruel, so how do your differentiate this from say "Boredom should be part of the punishment. Paint everything grey, no TV, no music, give them the same food every day, etc."

Nasher said:
They don't have to treat them like animals, but there should be no entertainment or luxuries there at all.

We are animals, so however you treat them becomes being treated like animals. They should be treated like the scum they are.

mattcrane · 29 Nov 2017 at 20:05

FoxEye said:
They lose their liberty, that is sufficient.

Having personally seen what they did no it is not sufficient at all.

Uther · 29 Nov 2017 at 20:10

Why should the average scumbag prisoner, let alone a war criminal, get an easier life inside than some poor sod who's never broken the law but has to live on foodbanks and hoping not to freeze to death because they can't afford to keep warm in the winter?

FoxEye · 29 Nov 2017 at 20:28

mattcrane said:
Having personally seen what they did no it is not sufficient at all.

It is understandable that people affected might want to see the guilty suffer. Might even want them to be tortured.

But that is not what justice is about.

Torture and cruelty are (thankfully) not included in civilised penal systems.

e: Also, hello fellow Truronian

AHarvey · 29 Nov 2017 at 20:30

Nasher said:
They don't have to treat them like animals, but there should be no entertainment or luxuries there at all.

Boredom should be part of the punishment. Paint everything grey, no TV, no music, give them the same food every day, etc.

As someone with a mother who's a prison guard, let me ask you 1 very important question.

Would you want to be outnumbered 40:1 with a bunch of very bored, angry, criminals?

Nasher · 29 Nov 2017 at 20:34

AHarvey said:
As someone with a mother who's a prison guard, let me ask you 1 very important question.

Would you want to be outnumbered 40:1 with a bunch of very bored, angry, criminals?

Not a problem if they are kept in their own separate pen

Uther · 29 Nov 2017 at 20:52

AHarvey said:
As someone with a mother who's a prison guard, let me ask you 1 very important question.

Would you want to be outnumbered 40:1 with a bunch of very bored, angry, criminals?

They'd be far too tired to do anything after 12 hours on a prison treadmill.

arby1 · 29 Nov 2017 at 20:59

Is there any indication/rumour/plot how he got the poison?

subbytna · 29 Nov 2017 at 21:31

Well he's dead now. Guess it worked.

Energize · 29 Nov 2017 at 21:37

dowie said:
they have luxury prison cells, it's probably bleach or some other cleaning product he's nicked from the cleaner and easily hidden among all his possessions etc.. in his prison suite/mini apartment

Drinking a bit of bleach is not going to kill you.

Could be anything really, nicotine is very toxic and widely available for example.

MooMoo444 · 29 Nov 2017 at 21:41

Don’t understand why he announced it

What if by telling them it’s poison, they managed to save him?

Be better to leave them wondering

Angilion · 29 Nov 2017 at 23:36

Was he actually guilty? Does anyone care?

southernorth · 29 Nov 2017 at 23:41

Nasher said:
They don't have to treat them like animals, but there should be no entertainment or luxuries there at all.

Boredom should be part of the punishment. Paint everything grey, no TV, no music, give them the same food every day, etc.

Not quite war criminals, but:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36067653

Sankari · 30 Nov 2017 at 00:04

Great result.

Serbs are going wild on Facebook right now. They think he was a hero unjustly convicted by a corrupt, NATO-influenced court. Bloody East European peasants. :rolleyes: