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Ryzen "2" ?
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Ok Thanks, I was considering picking up a mobo now then getting the processor when they are released, Jan-feb I think? In that case I'll hold on for now.
Thinking on what the X370 platform provides and all it's modern features, what could possibly be added on X470?
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better vrm cooling maybe
X470 could add Thunderbolt 3 support, USB 3.1 gen 2, it could provide more PCI-E lanes to enable more I/O options, maybe integrated WiFi & BT, maybe tougher VRM spec, etc...
B450 with better VRMs would be nice, because right now the jump from B350 to the good X370 boards VRM wise is pretty darn steep, albeit even your basic B350 board with a heatsink on the mosfets can cope with 3.8/3.9Ghz R7s.
B450 with better VRMs would be nice, because right now the jump from B350 to the good X370 boards VRM wise is pretty darn steep, albeit even your basic B350 board with a heatsink on the mosfets can cope with 3.8/3.9Ghz R7s.
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I imagine X470 will offer better DDR4 stability and overclocking than X370 too. Even now it seems a lot of people on the same board get different mileage with the same memory.
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Current chipsets already have this.
I'd like to see pcie 3 lanes on the chipset for faster secondary storage.
I thought they used an ASMedia chip for USB 3.1 gen 2 and the X370 chipset itself only has 3.1 gen 1? Can't really find the chipset documentation anywhere to get more info.
Gen 3 lanes would be welcome too, or more Gen 2 lanes.
Gen 3 lanes would be welcome too, or more Gen 2 lanes.
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Pretty sure it's native, found the diagram.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-x370-xpower-gaming-titanium-review,3.html
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-x370-xpower-gaming-titanium-review,3.html
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Do they ? It seems to me the only real variable is the "people". Over the years of Intel domination, most peeps have got used to just selecting mem speed and it worked. Go back that not many years ago and all of us had to work out for ourselves what was our best mem speed. I would suggest to you and probably a lot of others that overclocking memory has always been very tricky and time consuming. Now day's for the most part peeps just do not want to spend the time or have the expertise to properly trouble shoot or overclock any ram properly. Don't blame the mobo or the ram.................look at the user.
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Me and the girlfriend have the same case, cooling, cpu, board and memory. Mine sits happily at it's stated 3200 C14 but hers sits down at 3148Mhz instead. Minor difference I know but that's just using these two systems.
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Whilst the user does have some weight in the results of overclocking. As I've said many times on here 1 CPU could do 3466 the other could only do 2933, same mobo same ram. No amount of tweaking could get the other above 2933 until much much later bios updates, even then 3200 was its limit.
The conclusion is that you are more lucky than she is.
This is a huuuge difference. ~3500 MHz and 2933 MHz.
Must be something very wrong with the CPU, worse bin or something
Is there an article to explain why these memory frequency differences appear?
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Oh I know, but the RAM is stated for 3200Mhz C14 which it isn't doing in her system even though it's on the same board and same cpu with the same cooling.
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The conclusion is that you are more lucky than she is.
This is a huuuge difference. ~3500 MHz and 2933 MHz.
Must be something very wrong with the CPU, worse bin or something
Is there an article to explain why these memory frequency differences appear?
Yeah I think I got a Friday night shift sample!
Soldato
Anyone seen anything on "Threadripper 2" (Zen+/Ryzen 2 threadripper chips)? Tempted to drop a decent chunk on a good setup. Gaming mostly, sure but will end up being my lab/training rig too.
I'll probably stick with Ryzen 2700x but... curious to see what's planned.
I'll probably stick with Ryzen 2700x but... curious to see what's planned.
Upgrading from our Sandy/Ivy Bridge setups to any kind of 6 core Ryzen will be a massive boost, lets just hope that Ryzen+ hits 4.5ghz fairly easily.
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Aye, I'll put... small money on 4.5 being extremely achievable with golden chips going further.
No information about Threadripper 2 I have seen.
If AMD keeps the time cadence, they will introduce it later in 2018.