Going to be fun at work today.

Droolinggimp said:
We considered getting door men to prevent trouble but having them would just add fuel to the fire.
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Just FYI if this is considered in future, it is illegal for them to deny entry to people simply because they're travellers and can cause a heavy fine:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...f-denied-gypsies-and-travellers-10258848.html

One of the UK’s largest pub chains has been found guilty of racial discrimination after its staff refused to allow a group of Gypsies and Travellers into a branch in north London, in what lawyers described as a “seminal” case.

JD Wetherspoon has been ordered to pay £24,000 in damages after a judge ruled that staff at The Coronet in Holloway Road had acted illegally when they denied entry to a group of people who had been attending a nearby conference organised by the Traveller Movement charity.

Central London County Court heard that David Leach, the then manager of the pub who has since died, had been told about the November 2011 conference and had specifically hired security staff to stand outside the pub on the day it was scheduled to take place.
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Obviously the additional witnesses perhaps helped bring the case in this instance and perhaps the presence of the priest and police inspector should have led the doormen to not be so overly cautious (though it isn't clear if they were aware of their presence or just thought it was a group of 15 travellers).

On the other hand gender is supposed to have protected status just like ethnicity... though I've not heard of a group of 15 guys successfully suing a venue after quite blatantly being denied entry simply because they're in a large group of lads... the same sort of ruining ought to apply. I mean if the argument is that groups of lads can cause trouble/start fights so it is OK to deny them entry in large groups then that would be even more applicable to travellers.
 
NewGamer11 said:
Put up a sign saying "No Irish, no blacks, no dogs". People are cool with that sort of thing nowadays.
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some fishing business owner did the Brexit equivalent of that recently:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ism-brexit-field-farm-fisheries-a8118791.html

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apparently it may be the result of cultural differences because some Polish anglers keep the fish to eat/don't realise they're supposed to release them and the owner thinks they're all thieves now :D
 
Er, this might be a silly question but what is the point of catching a fish if you are not going to eat it? Surely the injuries it would sustain from having a hook through it's mouth would be agony and being dragged in by this also more so. I would imagine death and a nice dinner would be a blessing. Whenever I went fishing as a lad, we ate my bounty. Mostly Mackerel and the odd Eel.
 
something daft already!! said:
Er, this might be a silly question but what is the point of catching a fish if you are not going to eat it? Surely the injuries it would sustain from having a hook through it's mouth would be agony and being dragged in by this also more so.
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Some people enjoy the challenge of catching them I guess, it isn't exactly an obscure hobby. Yeah I agree it would make more sense to catch something you're going to eat perhaps but in the case of these artificial fishing sites I think they'd run out of stock rather rapidly/need to charge significantly more money if they were to operate on that basis.
 
dowie said:
On the other hand gender is supposed to have protected status just like ethnicity... though I've not heard of a group of 15 guys successfully suing a venue after quite blatantly being denied entry simply because they're in a large group of lads... the same sort of ruining ought to apply. I mean if the argument is that groups of lads can cause trouble/start fights so it is OK to deny them entry in large groups then that would be even more applicable to travellers.
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Venues (EG Nightclubs) are always concerned over the mix. They like to keep the percentage of women high. hence a tendency to discourage large all male groups,

Same goes for race too. Every now and again you hear stories about how Black people feel they have been excluded from a venue for being Black.

While I can see how people might feel hard done by over this, I can also see the venues POV too.

Get too many men in your club and eventually you will sacre away the girls and before you know where you are you will either go out of business or become a gay bar. Now Gay bars are fine, but a club owner has the right to run his or her club the way he or she wants to and if they do not want to run a gay bar, then they should have the right not to do so.

Similarly, a handful of Black customers in an otherwise mainstream white dominated nightclub gives a nice cosmopolitan feel to the place.

But get too many and the White people will start going elsewhere and before you know where you are you will be running a hip-hop club. Again, hip-hop is fine, but also again, An owner shouldn't be forced to become one if he doesn't want it to be.
 
Orionaut said:
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But get too many and the White people will start going elsewhere and before you know where you are you will be running a hip-hop club. Again, hip-hop is fine, but also again, An owner shouldn't be forced to become one if he doesn't want it to be.
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Are you seriously saying that a large influx of black people will turn a club into a hip hop club?
 
Plenty O'Toole said:
Exactly the same, our village was completely inaccessible thanks to their parking, quite literally in the middle of the road.

It's absolutely ridiculous that we should accomodate their culture when they don't respect the law.
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We aren't accommodating their culture. They have a right to exist, and they should exercise that right if they wish to.
 
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