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Nvidia Instructs Retailers To Stop Selling To Miners & Sell To Gamers Instead

I know something that would help, Would annoy people but it would work.

Anyone and everyone should only be allowed to buy 2 x GPU's per month from the same account/same delivery address.
 
As if that would ever happen.

People like making money. Miners and retailers alike. We just gotta suck it up.
 
More to the point they want miners buying their expensive compute cards maybe even a pretext for reducing compute on GeForce cards further :(
 
Rroff said:
More to the point they want miners buying their expensive compute cards maybe even a pretext for reducing compute on GeForce cards further :(
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that's just got me thinking, can nVidia and amd not optimise one range of their cards for gaming and separately optimise others for mining. or would the mining software just patch in a work around?
 
nVidia are so removed from the final retail market they must have no power to tell anybody to do anything.

nV -> Board partners -> global distributors -> shops/retail

This is nothing but a PR exercise.

Besides, they're more interested in supercomputers, AI, cars...
 
What's the chances that if this had been a story that AMD had suggested this it would be all sweetness and light.;):p;)
But of course because it's NVIDIA it's a horrid idea.
Myself I applaud any company that is willing to even suggest supplying the cards for what they are actually meant for.
 
Good Nvidia, if miners want to mining with 10 Nvidia cards so they have to buy Nvidia miner cards which has 3 months warranty I think, not Nvidia gamer cards with 2 to 3 years warranty.
 
Pretty sure Nvidia's main market is GTX 750Ti's to China number one! and cards for mining. If Nvidia are serious about cooling the graphics market the should release Roderick.
 
Thekwango said:
that's just got me thinking, can nVidia and amd not optimise one range of their cards for gaming and separately optimise others for mining. or would the mining software just patch in a work around?
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What would be the point?

The limit on number of cards that are produced is down to the capacity of semiconductor fabrication plants for the GPU chip and RAM.
So if they made miner specific cards there would just be less gamer cards.

Production at the fabs is already maxed out and GPUs have to compete with other sectors like phone CPUs/RAM.
it take years to build a new fab and cost billions to add capacity.
 
Good luck with that Nvidia. I guess they might be able to limit supplies to those filling warehouses, but all that means is more cards available for the little guys to buy, filling bedrooms. Controls at that level would be far harder.

The market's broken until mining moves away from GPUs.
 
I predict this will happen.

When graphics card technology moves on more (as it always does), the cards that the miners are using won't be efficient to run. I predict that when this happens there will be floods of second hand slightly out of date graphics card that will still be perfectly usable in gaming machines.
 
JasonM said:
I predict this will happen.

When graphics card technology moves on more (as it always does), the cards that the miners are using won't be efficient to run. I predict that when this happens there will be floods of second hand slightly out of date graphics card that will still be perfectly usable in gaming machines.
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Yeah, but I wouldn't want to buy last gen, still for good money, with the chance it's been run 24/7 at max for possibly 1 or 2 years. Everything has a MBTF, hence a reason warranties are 1 or 2 years, the failure rate start rising after that.
 
And this is why NVidia does so much better than AMD. They have no influence over retailers, no ability to control supplies at an individual level and and probably don't really care, but they say the right stuff. Quite why this is beyond their competition I don't know.
 
DarrenM343 said:
Yeah, but I wouldn't want to buy last gen, still for good money, with the chance it's been run 24/7 at max for possibly 1 or 2 years. Everything has a MBTF, hence a reason warranties are 1 or 2 years, the failure rate start rising after that.
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Chances are an undervolted, underclocked mining card is in better shape than one that's been used for gaming. :p
 
If a miner buys 6 cards then he/she's given Nvidia more money in one transaction than a loyal gamer like myself would have given them in 12-18 years. (assuming I buy a card every 2-3 years and never use amd)

It all sounds like a nice idea but people find ways and means. Domestic scale mining will just see people ordering two cards from ten different retailers or using multiple accounts and addresses. Obviously for places buying hundreds of cards this would less likely but retailers would probably ignore the rules if someone was buying pallets of cards in an instant.
 
chroniclard said:
Chances are an undervolted, underclocked mining card is in better shape than one that's been used for gaming. :p
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Yep, taking that into consideration, but gaming is probably max a few hours a day vs 24/7 for mining. Also have to consider heat cycles which would have course be fewer on the mining cards.
Maybe it balances out but I think mining cards on balance do get much more hammered. Just know I'd be less happy to buy a 2 year old mining card, a three month old one then probably yes, if it was priced appropriately.
And some don't undervolt either and some do overclock even mining cards. There seems to be two lines of thinking, gimme as many coins as possible efficiently (using lowest amount of electricity) and gimme as many coins as possible, period.
Luckily I only buy new. And when I do sell a few cards I'm using for mining, I'll make sure I put it in the ad too, something many probably don't do.
 
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Retailers may be playing a part in this, but so are the card manufacturers. On one of Gamers Nexus recent vids Steve stated that some manufacturers were delivering bulk shipments of cards straight to big mining farms bypassing the retailers. Meaning less cards going into the supply chain for gamers?
 
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