Equal Pay for different Job roles?

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From the article:

Birmingham City Council is now liable for over £1bn pounds in payments after settling an equal pay claim from women employed as cleaners, cooks and carers.

Their pay was below men in comparable jobs such as bin collectors and road workers.
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Comparable jobs? If the jobs were/are comparable, then why didn't the women feeling undervalued go for the higher paying ones?

I'm not liking the way this is all heading, we shouldn't have pay dictated based on a third party's perceived value.
 
Judgeneo said:
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Comparable jobs? If the jobs were/are comparable, then why didn't the women feeling undervalued go for the higher paying ones?

I'm not liking the way this is all heading, we shouldn't have pay dictated based on a third party's perceived value.
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Surely one of the reasons bin collectors and road workers get paid more than cleaners and cooks is because its much harder to attract people into those roles?
 
I work in IT and the female project managers at work are getting paid more than me. This is an outrage, I want the same money.
 
A front of store job (which I've done plenty) is as much akin to a warehouse job (I've spent some time there as well) as my Software testing job is akin to my CEO's.
 
Rossi~ said:
I work in IT and the female project managers at work are getting paid more than me. This is an outrage, I want the same money.
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Send something to HR highlighting this. You don't need to take a demanding or petulant tone, just point it out and see their response. They will likely realize it is more hassle than it is worth to argue against it and will give in rather than risking putting their foot in it or you will get a legitimate response as to why you are paid differently.
 
It does seem like an odd claim, there are of course men working in the stores too and it isn't like they can't apply for a warehouse role... I doubt the middle aged woman in the video, complete with double chin would last long in a warehouse job anyway! Yet she has the audacity to claim that it is the same as the work she does.... as if a massive company like Tesco which tries to save money everywhere wouldn't be paying the warehouse staff less if it could get away with it and still recruit sufficient people to the role.
 
Lawyers say hourly-paid female store staff earn less than men even though the value of the work is comparable.
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What is this nonsense? Value of the work?

Do they do the same job? If so, there's a case there, if this is women in the shop standing at the tills chatting then it's not the same job as the blokes in the warehouse. Regardless of what you claim.

This nonsense needs to stop.
 
Ah...the beginning of communism ha ha (joking of course before I get trampled on)

Next the managers will be demanding the same pay as the directors....because essentially....its the same job....managing people and pushing the business forward.

Directors will want the same as the CEO.....Nurses the Same as doctors......flat wage for every single person...just to keep it "fair"
 
Ayahuasca said:
Seems a bit dubious covering job roles with things like “store staff” that involves a number of different responsibilities and workload.

Should we start paying all office workers the same as they sit in front of a screen, typing on a keyboard for the majority of the day?

Why are the measurements on this always so lazy? Any credible studies on it show the gap simply doesn’t exist outside of some niche areas.
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Had this exact discussion with the finance team at work yesterday. Being 90% female, they were not amused. But i wasn't wrong, and this is another example of figures being abused because 'gender pay gap' - the roles are different, so the pay should be different. If they (female cashiers) want equal pay, get them out back lugging **** around with the rest of the staff.
 
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This is ridiculous and complete nonsense.

All Tesco shop floor staff (all departments) whether male or female get paid £8.02 an hour. Men and women working in the depots will get paid up to £11 an hour. This is basically some shop floor staff wanting to get paid the same as staff in the depots, and somehow being spun as women getting paid less than men by lawyers and various news outlets. Obviously a forklift driver is getting paid more than shop floor staff, whether male or female. I really do despair. This has nothing to do with a gender pay gap or equal pay, I can't believe the lawyers and the media are spinning this. Working a checkout whether male or female is not an equal role to someone driving a forklift(just an example) handling heavy loads for 10 hours, again, male or female. Equal pay for equal roles, these are not equal roles. I'm so tired of this nonsense.

Source: I work there.
 
I don't get paid the same as the Directors in my firm even though we do the exact same job - sit behind a desk, take phone calls and have occasional face-to-face meetings with clients.

Brb making a formal complaint to 3x my salary
 
This is actually a very useful test case.

Firstly, Tesco pay is the same for males and females in the same role.

Secondly, pushing this as a gender pay gap inequality is going to be one step too far I suspect; which may actually positively resolve this current gender discrimination movement when it backfires.

This is clearly the unions and their legal counsel using whatever leverage available to get pay rises. Tesco have the much deeper legal pockets needed to follow through with a challenge though thankfully.

We have loads of Tesco near us. Lots of males on shop floor and at checkouts.
 
It would be ridiculous if tesco lost this case - they are clearly different roles and so should be paid differently (warehouse work is far more dangerous and physically more difficult).
 
aardvark said:
It would be ridiculous if tesco lost this case - they are clearly different roles and so should be paid differently (warehouse work is far more dangerous and physically more difficult).
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They won't. It's the same with Tesco Dotcom delivery drivers, they get paid 50p more an hour than shopfloor staff, and women certainly get paid the same as their male colleagues. The fact that a huge amount (according to to the article) of shop floor staff think they should get the same pay as depot staff or even dotcom delivery drivers for that matter, and then for the lawyers and news spouting gender pay gap nonsense is incredibly disappointing and dishonest.
 
The article seems to be getting confused about a shop store warehouse and a depot/distribution center.

edit: So the people working the warehouse say the work is comparable to the people working in the distribution centers so they want equal pay as people working at a distribution center get more pay.

So this isnt a gender pay gap issue as it can effect any gender.
 
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It does seem a bit muddled. It goes on about warehouse and distribution center but then about front end customer facing staff, specifically women, compared to warehouse staff.

The general tone of the article does seem to be driving a point about gender pay differences rather than job pay differences.
 
So when tesco are legally obliged to pay all their staff the same amount, what are they going to do when all their warehouse staff walk out to get a cashier job?
 
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