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Some doctors said some of the earnings differences could also stem from the fact men were more likely to do overtime.
No **** sherlock!

Yeah, I saw that on BBC news, that one line of text surrounded by reasons of how unfair the gender pay gap is. Perhaps although I doubt it would get much attention would be if it were looked at as a hourly rate rather than overall earnings per year.
 
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As for the idea that defining people by their sex and excluding men from "equality" has no bearing on men...well, that's simply ridiculous. Were you laughing when you typed it, going "trollolol" to yourself?

Who said anything about excluding men from equality?!

I'll break it down nice and simple......

Is this event/debate going to have any bearing, impact or effect on you, me, the OP or anyone else, in any significant numbers and in any significant way? I'll hazard a guess at no.
Are we going to wake up the morning after to a world where men are in chains?
Will this debate cause the Amazonian/Valkyrie women of the world to subjugate all men?? Again I'll hazard a guess at no.

Will this an unbiased enlightening event?
Hell no.
Wil it be a non event waste of time echo chamber type of event? Hell yes.

So when you add up all the above you'll see there's little for most normal folk to be concerned about.

What's ridiculous is the number of people in here trying to find ways to be upset or concerned about this when they clearly don't need to be.

Also, it's a tad off talking about the KKK in the same breath as this nonsense - even if it was a made up comparison. I don't think our feminazi friends have took to stringing anyone up from trees just yet.
 
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Not to mention that those self-same people are the ones constantly bemoaning “snow flakes”. The irony is palpable.
This is what is baffling me somewhat. I often here complaints in here about how everyone is turning into a snow flake or everyone else is becoming too easily offended. This is, for me anyway, exactly the same. This nonsense, and let's be honest that's what this 'event' is, utter nonsense, will have zero impact on the lives of anyone at all on these forums. Not one wink of sleep will be lost. Not one ooor downtrodden male will feel the lash of the cat-o-nine tails as a result of this event. Yet it seems some are going out of their way to make up reasons to be upset.
 
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This is what is baffling me somewhat. I often here complaints in here about how everyone is turning into a snow flake or everyone else is becoming too easily offended. This is, for me anyway, exactly the same. This nonsense, and let's be honest that's what this 'event' is, utter nonsense, will have zero impact on the lives of anyone at all on these forums. Not one wink of sleep will be lost. Not one ooor downtrodden male will feel the lash of the cat-o-nine tails as a result of this event. Yet it seems some are going out of their way to make up reasons to be upset.

It’s because they see it as yet another example of “Cultural Marxism” or “Identity Politics” or “Biological Group Advocacy” and they’re worried it’s going to turn us all into socialists.

They see it as a threat to freedom of speech and potentially a threat to their way of life (or at least their ideology).

They will tell you that they don’t agree with sexual harassment or racism and they definitely aren’t homophobic. They just think that now women can vote and gay people can get married and ethnic minorities can’t be slaves any more; there’s no need for civil rights activism any longer.
 
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It’s because they see it as yet another example of “Cultural Marxism” or “Identity Politics” or “Biological Group Advocacy” and they’re worried it’s going to turn us all into socialists.

They see it as a threat to freedom of speech and potentially a threat to their way of life (or at least their ideology).

They will tell you that they don’t agree with sexual harassment or racism and they definitely aren’t homophobic. They just think that now women can vote and gay people can get married and ethnic minorities can’t be slaves any more; there’s no need for civil rights activism any longer.
you're reading too much into it. personally I think the reasons behind it are that some folk are just nosey, curtain peeking sods who can't mind their own business! :p
 
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I remember that time feminists said snow ploughing in stockholm was sexist because they don't prioritize areas women use like cycle routes, pavements , roads to schools nurseries, schools etc.
Previously, fresh snowfalls were cleared first from main roads and by areas like construction sites before being removed from pavements and cycle lanes. As men are more likely to drive and women more likely to travel on foot, more women slipped on the ice which led to complaints that the system was sexist.

Vice-mayor of Stockholm, the Green Party’s Daniel Helldén, admitted that “equality snow removal” had failed the city, and apologised to residents who had injured themselves as a result.

When the Red-Green coalition, comprising politicians from the Social Democratic Party, Green Party, Left Party, and Feminist Initiative, were elected to City Hall in 2014 the introduction of a “feminist” snow clearance was high on the agenda.

But police last week said the system is so bad, with ambulances unable to make their way along Stockholm’s roads, it posed a danger to society. Officer Fredrik Ståhle branded the conditions for drivers in the city “deplorable”.
lol feminists
 
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you're reading too much into it. personally I think the reasons behind it are that some folk are just nosey, curtain peeking sods who can't mind their own business! :p
There are plenty of posts in this thread (and others in GD over recent weeks) to show that I don't need to read into anything; it's there in black (blue) and white! :D
 
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For me it's as simple as pointing out that feminism isn't anything to do with gender equality. I'm all for fixing women's issues, but I'm also for fixing men's issues. You won't find a feminist who wants to fix men's issues.
 
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It’s because they see it as yet another example of “Cultural Marxism” or “Identity Politics” or “Biological Group Advocacy” and they’re worried it’s going to turn us all into socialists.

They see it as a threat to freedom of speech and potentially a threat to their way of life (or at least their ideology).

They will tell you that they don’t agree with sexual harassment or racism and they definitely aren’t homophobic. They just think that now women can vote and gay people can get married and ethnic minorities can’t be slaves any more; there’s no need for civil rights activism any longer.

You're doing a good job of appearing naive and uniformed. Why should you care about men's rights? Let's hope you never get prostate cancer. Let's hope you never go through a custody battle. Let's hope you never suffer violence, which if you are a man is statistically more likely. Let's hope you never go through a divorce... the list goes on.

All of those issues can happen to any man at any time, so trying to state it won't effect most people is wrong. It's also disingenuous and dangerous to equate those who try to raise this issue as misogynistic, racist, homophobic, or any other slur you can think of.
 
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You're doing a good job of appearing naive and uniformed. Why should you care about men's rights? Let's hope you never get prostate cancer. Let's hope you never go through a custody battle. Let's hope you never suffer violence, which if you are a man is statistically more likely. Let's hope you never go through a divorce... the list goes on.

All of those issues can happen to any man at any time, so trying to state it won't effect most people is wrong. It's also disingenuous and dangerous to equate those who try to raise this issue as misogynistic, racist, homophobic, or any other slur you can think of.

And you’re doing a good job of appearing unable to read. Nice straw man though.

At no point did I, in any way, suggest that I don’t care about men’s issues. At no point did I suggest that those things won’t affect most people and at no point did I suggest that caring about those issues is misogynistic, racist or homophobic.
 
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Not surprised you don't know as you don't understand anything about men despite supposedly being one ;)
Keen to learn mate, keen to learn. However, I am not entirely convinced that we are discussing men here, I rather got the impression that the thread was about Neanderthals' inability to deal with the modern world?

ps - do they still sell Yorkie bars? DISGUSTING lumps of sugar and fat!
 
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For me it's as simple as pointing out that feminism isn't anything to do with gender equality. I'm all for fixing women's issues, but I'm also for fixing men's issues. You won't find a feminist who wants to fix men's issues.

I don't think Men's issues will be their priority but they'll still care about them and hope something will be done about it. Why is it up to them to solve men's issues too while they lag behind us?

Again pointing out how little feminists care about male issues isn't doing anything to help them. Maybe some men need to look at what feminists are doing for their own gender and use it as an example to draw attention to their own issues.
 
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