NVIDIA To Announce RTX Technology

Armageus · 20 Mar 2018 at 13:14

Gregster said:
Showing your age there bud

It's either that or the Amiga boing ball demo

Gregster · 20 Mar 2018 at 13:39

Armageus said:
It's either that or the Amiga boing ball demo

Kickstart 1.3 ball if I am not mistaken?

Edit:

Just googled and I am mistaken

LoadsaMoney · 20 Mar 2018 at 14:04

D3K · 20 Mar 2018 at 16:18

4K8KW10 said:
I welcome the idea but.....
The difference between the two images is matte vs glossy surface with reflections, and more transparency/different colour of the second image.
Look at Need for Speed reflections. They have been present in the NFS games for a decade, if not more, and without any ray-tracing.
NFS Carbon, NFS Underground, etc.

I think you need to read stuff in context and not just look at pictures. I was demonstrating that ray tracing takes longer, in this case 1/40 frames per second. The differences between the images was merely an example that there had been a change.

As far as those NFS reflections go, they are generated from having a mirror image of the car drawn underneath itself. If they were ray traced the car would have been drawn once, and then the light bounced off it and into the puddle to then come back at the camera.

Rroff · 20 Mar 2018 at 16:23

D3K said:
As far as those reflections go, they are generated from having a mirror of the car underneath itself. If they were ray traced the car would have been drawn once, and then the light bounced off it and into the puddle to then come back at the camera.

Those screenshots from NFS, etc. don't really bare much on what ray tracing can do - no amount of fake radiosity/global illuminations compares to the real thing once you've got used to it - its like 60Hz versus 120+Hz, its very hard to fake caustics convincingly, etc.

D3K · 20 Mar 2018 at 16:27

Rroff said:
Those screenshots from NFS, etc. don't really bare much on what ray tracing can do - no amount of fake radiosity/global illuminations compares to the real thing once you've got used to it - its like 60Hz versus 120+Hz, its very hard to fake caustics convincingly, etc.

Like I just said, the SS from NFS aren't raytraced so ofc they don't show what that tech can do

Rroff · 20 Mar 2018 at 16:29

D3K said:
Like I just said, the SS from NFS aren't raytraced so ofc they don't show what that tech can do

That isn't how I mean it - the situation shown in them and the focus on reflections barely touches on the things ray tracing brings to the table (whether they were ray traced or not).

D3K · 20 Mar 2018 at 16:37

Rroff said:
That isn't how I mean it - the situation shown in them and the focus on reflections barely touches on the things ray tracing brings to the table (whether they were ray traced or not).

Don't get me wrong, I expect to be blown away all this (maybe too much so), but it's hard to grasp just how those kind of reflections will really look.
Rendering 1 frame at a time doesn't leave you with enough impression, so all we have is CGI movies to base impressions from.
Tho I do expect to spend a lot of time just moving around looking at effects, in the same way with Far Cry's water back in the day

AthlonXP1800 · 21 Mar 2018 at 03:45

Found the full Remedy ray tracing demo.

Wooow the ray tracing lighting like sun shine through blinds at start and end are stunning. :cool:

D3K · 21 Mar 2018 at 08:44

AthlonXP1800 said:
Found the full Remedy ray tracing demo.

Wooow the ray tracing lighting like sun shine through blinds at start and end are stunning.

AlphaOne · 21 Mar 2018 at 13:09

Apparently all demos are running on Volta hardware.

AthlonXP1800 · 21 Mar 2018 at 19:42

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/...ng-in-unreal-engine-4-with-ilmxlab-and-nvidia

Epic showcased real time ray tracing Unreal 4 engine demo used assets from Star Wars: The Last Jedi running on Titan Vs.

Wooow real time ray tracing on Unreal engine with Nvidia Gameworks now can deliver movie quality graphics in games. :eek:

JediFragger · 21 Mar 2018 at 23:32

That was pretty awesome, better than TLJ

Rroff · 21 Mar 2018 at 23:39

AthlonXP1800 said:
Wooow real time ray tracing on Unreal engine with Nvidia Gameworks now can deliver movie quality graphics in games.

For some reason I started thinking of the possibilities for Mass Effect games before Starwars on watching that video.

TheRealDeal · 21 Mar 2018 at 23:44

AthlonXP1800 said:
https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/...ng-in-unreal-engine-4-with-ilmxlab-and-nvidia

Epic showcased real time ray tracing Unreal 4 engine demo used assets from Star Wars: The Last Jedi running on Titan Vs.

Wooow real time ray tracing on Unreal engine with Nvidia Gameworks now can deliver movie quality graphics in games.

Sure it can lol. I can't wait to see these movie quality visuals in 20 years time in an actual game where we can actually play it. Impressive but i doubt we will be playing Movie quality games for a good while yet. Cut scene's i can believe but actual game play i can't see it. The footage was well put together and i did laugh especially at the elevator music.

Hopefully i am wrong though as Graphics need to push on more than they have done for years now. If they some how did then i might be willing to save up.

AthlonXP1800 · 22 Mar 2018 at 09:34

AthlonXP1800 · 22 Mar 2018 at 10:13

TheRealDeal said:
Sure it can lol. I can't wait to see these movie quality visuals in 20 years time in an actual game where we can actually play it. Impressive but i doubt we will be playing Movie quality games for a good while yet. Cut scene's i can believe but actual game play i can't see it. The footage was well put together and i did laugh especially at the elevator music.

Hopefully i am wrong though as Graphics need to push on more than they have done for years now. If they some how did then i might be willing to save up.

You are wrong so I think we will see in 2 to 5 years time.

You probably been played games like Tomb Raider and Far Cry 3, 4 etc, all characters in games are all digital CGI human characters but they all not quite same as in real life until now with next generation real time CGI digital capture hardware.

Unreal engine real time CGI characters demo from GDC 2018:

Holy crap wooow :eek:

DELETED_195422 · 22 Mar 2018 at 11:11

So apparently the Star Wars demo was running on a ultra high end 4-GPU DGX Station at 24fps, which costs 60K. :rolleyes:

Let me know when this tech is available for £300/400 and running in-game at 120fps. So probably need to wait until 2040 then, that's if there is still anyone left playing on PC due to Nvdia's BS.

Silent_Scone · 22 Mar 2018 at 11:20

There's no apparently about it. Shouldn't really <the requirements> come as a surprise to anyone.

Ayahuasca · 22 Mar 2018 at 11:34

Rock_n_Roll said:
So apparently the Star Wars demo was running on a ultra high end 4-GPU DGX Station at 24fps, which costs 60K.

Let me know when this tech is available for £300/400 and running in-game at 120fps. So probably need to wait until 2040 then, that's if there is still anyone left playing on PC due to Nvdia's BS.

That's always been the case for new tech, it wasn't that long ago that having double-digit CPU cores in a machine would set you back 5 figures.