Indeed.
I think it was his cousin that tried to justify it by saying he hadn’t really done anything wrong like killed or raped anyone which just summed up their whole culture of not really giving a **** about anyone else.
78 year old pensioner targetted for revenge
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I think it was his cousin that tried to justify it by saying he hadn’t really done anything wrong like killed or raped anyone which just summed up their whole culture of not really giving a **** about anyone else.
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Bingo, that's the answer I was looking for.
90% of this thread speaks out against travelers, yet the majority of the forum seems to wish to remain in the EU and be forever subject to the laws that protect their uncivilized behaviour.
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Do you think that being chained up in a cellar for years and being repeatedly raped and tortured before being killed is a reasonable punishment for burglary? What you just said would include that, but I don't know if you meant it. It would happen, of course. That sort of thing sometimes happens now, when it's highly illegal. Under the rules you stated, it would be legal if the victim was a burglar (or committed any other crime you think should be treated the same way). You would also be re-legalising slavery, obviously. Would you go as far as local government paying a bounty to anyone who could prove they had killed such a person? That happened the last time we had outlawry in England. You're calling for outlawry to be reinstated.
That's the old issue though isn't it? They don't give a damn about anyone else's rights why therefore should society give a damn about theirs?
Do keep in mind though that there's a gulf between reasonable treatment of criminals and barbaric torture!
Going against the grain here....
I dont see why people are ripping the shrine down. If the pensioner isnt currently living there then let the guys family put up some flowers for a while.
I mean the little girl has just lost her father (yes he was a scumbag) but people cant even allow her to put a card up for him, they feel it has to be ripped down and trampled on?
Has she done something wrong or is who she is thats the problem?
I dont see why people are ripping the shrine down. If the pensioner isnt currently living there then let the guys family put up some flowers for a while.
I mean the little girl has just lost her father (yes he was a scumbag) but people cant even allow her to put a card up for him, they feel it has to be ripped down and trampled on?
Has she done something wrong or is who she is thats the problem?
Put a shrine up at their own home. Doing so outside the victims house is likely deliberate to try to get back at him.
If the person who was killed was an aggressive criminal killed while attacking somebody, yes.
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i think the removal of the shrine has more to do with threats of revenge combined with the overall reputation of the travelling community.
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If the dead burglar's family want a public shrine, put it on their own property, not by the burglary victim's home...
This man died trespassing another man's home, he was not innocently knocked down on the street etc.
This man died trespassing another man's home, he was not innocently knocked down on the street etc.
Firstly, why a shrine?
Secondly why there?
When every tree, lamp post, fence bears witness to someone who has failed Darwins lottery will we all be satisfied?
Friends of mine back in the day, killed on a motorcycle or in a car, have their marker. It is in a graveyard. We celebrated their lives at the funeral and afterwards, we did not go and place flowers at the roadside. They were not there.
Secondly why there?
When every tree, lamp post, fence bears witness to someone who has failed Darwins lottery will we all be satisfied?
Friends of mine back in the day, killed on a motorcycle or in a car, have their marker. It is in a graveyard. We celebrated their lives at the funeral and afterwards, we did not go and place flowers at the roadside. They were not there.
Plus the shrine is on someone's fence. Would you like it on your fence? OK with the damage caused by people climbing all over it and banging nails in? Happy to pay to replace it once they've gone? Maybe they'll come back and do it all again next year for the anniversary. People usually leave tributes on the ground, but of course these people think they can do whatever the hell they want with no consideration for others.
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Bury the criminal and pay your respects at his grave, not difficult, this is just antagonistic and thoughtless scroatary.
You've got to admire the audacity really, that her defence is that he's only a burglar and not a murderer or rapist, wow. C'mon guys, he only broke into an OAPs house, took him as a prisonor in his own home while his mate stole his hard earned possessions. He's not that bad.
If the relatives of the 7/7 bombers erected shrines at the site of those atrocities in support of the terrorists, would they be allowed to remain?
The issue is that the shrine is actually being attached to the neighbours wooden fence across the road. I'd be somewhat put upon at strangers attaching objects to my boundary fence without permission.
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Where I live a guy died while on the run from police after jumping into a river (I can't remember what he did). There were tributes where he died and even that caused a bit of controversy, although they weren't taken down. However they were attached to the bridge he jumped from and not opposite of a victim's house he tried to rob.
they should put this shrine to crime elsewhere like on their own property or grave, they are just asking for trouble putting it there, he was a threatening screwdriver wielding criminal not an innocent victim... they are bullying the old guy and the local community by doing this!