The expected waiting time over the population remains unchanged. So really, who cares.
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The expected waiting time over the population remains unchanged. So really, who cares.
The people who have a longer expected waiting time because they're not in the priority group
Just as the people who wanted special treatment cared about having shorter waiting times.
Here's the bit that really flips your pancake:
The average wait time for the non-fasttrack group stays the same, but the average wait time for the fasttrack group gets quicker - taken as a whole population, that means the average wait time is quicker.
Why?
Because the system is, broadly, in balance. New arrivals stack up at a similar rate to how the system processes people. Waiting is built-in on purpose..... so that slow periods don't see downtime. Within this system, there's room to fasttrack a proportion of the entries without causing problems.
Take a system of 5 arrivals every day, with 5 processed out every day, and a time in the system of 10 days. That's 5 in, 5 out, with 50 in the mechanism at all times. an average of 10 days for each individual.
Now assume one person each day is fasttracked - processed in 1 day instead of 10. That leaves the other 4 taking 10 days. You still have 5 in each day (1 fast), and 5 out (1 fast). The 'slow' group is still dealt with in 10 days, but the 'fast' group is through in 1. A quicker overall average.
It's really quite straightforward.
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Also @dowie
No, the system is still only processing 5 per day
Why would they care unless they had some other kind of religious need or important priuoirty such as a forign family, in which case hose needs can be communicated to the coroner and everyone is happy again.
It is nonsense, you've just stated the delay is the same when it obviously isn't.
Well exactly, there could be many reasons why they might care. So long as anyone can opt into the priority group then that would be fair as I already stated.
I don't follow: Why is it obviously not?
Because if your average wait time is unchanged and you reduce it for one portion then it increases for the other portion.
They're still processing the same number of bodies, the work is still going to take the same amount of time overall... so if you make it happen quicker for some you're inevitable slowing it for others.
You're just not thinking it through and your attempt to give an example is flawed as you simply re stated your assumption that the waiting time is the same.
That depends on whether that is implemented. Obviously it is an issue for some people thus we had a court case.
But if they can process 5 every day, and they receive 5 new ones every day, why would the 'slow' group suddenly have to wait longer?
You're getting it a bit garbled here. Think it through.
Because people are skipping ahead of the queue thus for each person who moves to the front you push back everyone else one place, ergo they all take longer than they would have if they maintained their original place.
But those fasttrack guys are not additional joiners: they've effectively been removed from the 'slow' queue, thus making that one shorter.
That they re-enter the queue further up just brings the queue back to how long it would be without any fasttrack option
By suddenly introducing a fasttrack option, you would have a temporary heavier workload, as you would be processing Jews and Muslims already in the 'slow' queue at the same time as the new fasttrack ones. But once that lump was swallowed (in about a week or two), the system would settle into the same pattern as before.
So again a farce, you've just done the same thing you tried before and assumed a more efficient system. You are changing how many can be dealt with by assuming that the coroner just works extra fast or something to deal with the queue jumpers which is dubious.
Why would he have to work harder? He's still going to process at the same throughput.
Fasttrackers just go to the top of the list. I don't know how fast that would be in reality. Maybe it's 1 day vs 2 weeks for the 'slow' queue. Maybe it's 4 days. Whatever
But the point is that it wouldn't create extra work (except in the brief introductory period).
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Keep flicking the majority's ear, I'm sure it'll lead to great things.
So if it doesn't create extra work and he/she is dealing with everyone at the usual rate then it will push everyone else back and give them a longer wait.
Some areas have a double digit % of Jews/Muslims so it isn't necessarily just the odd one either.