Kendrick Lamar calls out white fan for rapping n-word onstage with him at concert

MikeTheNative said:
Yeah lets go back to the 20th century where in some places blacks and whites were segregated. :p
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They still are if a black person can say a word and a white person can't say the same word, even in context of lyrics.

Either i've missed your irony. Or the irony is ironic.

I think it's also quite clear in the background voice that the N word is used.

She is fat though, so if nothing else, she should be pulled up for that
 
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Django x2 said:
They still are if a black person can say a word and a white person can't say the same word, even in context of lyrics.

Either i've missed your irony. Or the irony is ironic.
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I think your missing my point (which was dismissing people of the 20th century had common sense, which with the turn of the century was somehow lost) but are you equating a white person not be able to say the n word with apartheid and the jim crow laws?
 
MikeTheNative said:
I think your missing my point (which was dismissing people of the 20th century had common sense, which with the turn of the century was somehow lost) but are you equating a white person not be able to say the n word with apartheid and the jim crow laws?
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If a white person cannot say the n-word, because at some point in time, white people have accepted that it's not something that is acceptable to black people, then we are no different to white people sitting in a coffee shop without buying a coffee, asking black people doing the same thing, to leave. The word, identified as racist, is either racist to both groups and all people, or it isn't. It can't be one thing to some and not to others.
 
NVP said:
Listen to the video, he (or the backing audio) says *****.
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Fair enough, hadn't heard that myself, which makes it a little odd. I still think it's more likely about rules of them not being able to sing it something along those lines and actually he dealt with it quite well.
 
MikeTheNative said:
Yeah lets go back to the 20th century where in some places blacks and whites were segregated. :p
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Like todays Labour party rallies with men and women being segregated?

TBH it's only a matter of time before the 'progressive' left start segregating by race again and they'll brand it as something warm and fuzzy that portrays blacks as victims of white oppression to create yet more division.
 
AndyCr15 said:
And of course there is no evidence that he was singing these words... but again... let's not let that get in the way of the outrage.
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I don't think I've ever been to a gig where the artist has censored themselves? That's including small gigs, stadium gigs, festivals.. So the argument of "oh he must have not been singing it either" smacks rather of clutching at straws...

Boring holiday? Lol I was enjoying a leisurely breakfast and thought I'd check in and see what's going on the world :)
 
It's a pretty ridiculous song to ask a fan to sing and expect them to not not say certain words considering the 'chorus' goes as follows (partially edited of course)

"Man down
Where you from, *****?"
"*insert swear word that rimes with 'duck'* who you know, where you from, my ****?"
"Where your grandma stay, huh, my *****?"
"This m.A.A.d city I run, my ****"
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Should have never had her up to sing the song in the first place if there was going to be objections......

The whole song isn't suitable for children with the usual depressing rap content about drugs, guns and people being being killed over petty squabbles and drug dealing so the use of the word ***** hardly effects it suitability to be sung in front of a crowd potentially containing children.....
 
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Scam said:
I don't think I've ever been to a gig where the artist has censored themselves? That's including small gigs, stadium gigs, festivals.. So the argument of "oh he must have not been singing it either" smacks rather of clutching at straws...

Boring holiday? Lol I was enjoying a leisurely breakfast and thought I'd check in and see what's going on the world :)
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I have been to events where they use censored versions of the songs, not that uncommon.

Festival this happened at was hangout festival in Alabama. Never heard of it but it's not my sort of jams
 
if we're going to allow the use of racial slurs in music because of the legal exception of "it's art" then that should apply to any usage that can fall within that defence (including any and all direct quotes of the artistic peice regardless of who's doing the quoting).

if we're not going to allow racial slurs for anyone then they can't be used in art either, regardless of who's doing the singing.

pick one. personally i'm for the former.
 
Scam said:
I don't think I've ever been to a gig where the artist has censored themselves? That's including small gigs, stadium gigs, festivals.. So the argument of "oh he must have not been singing it either" smacks rather of clutching at straws...
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You've been to a a family event (possibly, we don't really know) where they have used the N word and such? I really don't see it as clutching at straws that he's been asked not to say it and he's been asked to ask the girl not to say it...
 
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