Lush Anti police Marketing fail

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So Lush (yes the soap shop) decided it was a good idea to push a crappy political agenda and attack all police officers in their latest marketing campaign. Look at the reviews here to see how well it's going:

https://en-gb.facebook.com/lush/

At least people who feel like robbing a shop know where to target now, I doubt the police will get there very quickly!
 
Isn't this about the undercover cops investigating certain ecological groups?

I mean if you're gonna terrorise people, you'll have to deal with the police at some point, either put up with it or you know do something else.
 
StriderX said:
Isn't this about the undercover cops investigating certain ecological groups?

I mean if you're gonna terrorise people, you'll have to deal with the police at some point, either put up with it or you know do something else.
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Yep apparently somebody involved with Lush was an 'Environmental Activist'
 
Don't get me wrong, testing cosmetics on animals is wrong so I support that stance from people like body shop/lush

But I'll generally side with undercover cops as long as they don't actually become criminals. It's not against the law to misrepresent yourself/your motives and end up sleeping with someone. That happens every night in pubs and clubs around the country! At least the undercover police have a goal to achieve, not like the people just putting another notch on their bedposts.
 
Mind you the new abuse law may actually cover these officers, it's probably abusive to be in a relationship falsely. So I imagine there will be a court case at some point if the police believe they're immune and the reality is they're probably not.

Along with GDPR, i imagine it's become impossible for the Police to do anything substantial.
 
Given the inquiry has been going on for three years and has recently looked in danger of collapsing/being swept over, I can see why they've decided to shout about it now.

Use of police resources to investigate / subvert political movements and whether they've overstepped the mark is something that ought to be looked at, as this inquiry is meant to be doing.

The problem lush have is they've gone big on the #spycops thing which only really means anything to people already invested in the inquiry but to everyone else just looks like a random general slur against the police.
 
VincentHanna said:
Don't get me wrong, testing cosmetics on animals is wrong so I support that stance from people like body shop/lush

But I'll generally side with undercover cops as long as they don't actually become criminals. It's not against the law to misrepresent yourself/your motives and end up sleeping with someone. That happens every night in pubs and clubs around the country! At least the undercover police have a goal to achieve, not like the people just putting another notch on their bedposts.
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Rape by deception is actually a law.

But I belive its more for things like agreeing to wear a condom then sneaking it off etc.

I know claiming to be a millionaire etc is not covered by it.
 
Lush have always been a pretty political organisation, their USP itself is tangled up with politics and a lot of their campaigns etc are related to tackling perceived injustice.

The main issue with this is the broad brush approach, the existence of the enquiry suggests there may be a case to answer but lumping all police into the same category was a giant misstep. I also think they may have over-estimated public opinion on this one, people have a preconception about green activists that is likely to work against them.
 
Kenai said:
Given the inquiry has been going on for three years and has recently looked in danger of collapsing/being swept over, I can see why they've decided to shout about it now.

Use of police resources to investigate / subvert political movements and whether they've overstepped the mark is something that ought to be looked at, as this inquiry is meant to be doing.

The problem lush have is they've gone big on the #spycops thing which only really means anything to people already invested in the inquiry but to everyone else just looks like a random general slur against the police.
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Peaceful political movement is one thing, but some of these groups such as Greenpeace are practically terrorists. Greenpeace in particular have been involved in piracy on the seas, then they wonder why they get in trouble with the authorities. Any breading ground for terror is worth investigating. Often that involves informants or undercover police infiltrating the organisation.
 
englishpremier said:
Peaceful political movement is one thing, but some of these groups such as Greenpeace are practically terrorists. Greenpeace in particular have been involved in piracy on the seas, then they wonder why they get in trouble with the authorities. Any breading ground for terror is worth investigating. Often that involves informants or undercover police infiltrating the organisation.
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Never said it isn't worth investigating these movements but it's also worth investigating whether said undercover police have overstepped the mark as is claimed. This is what has been under scrutiny for the last three years. If they have, then changes need to be made regarding undercover conduct. If they haven't, then people need to accept that's what is deemed appropriate conduct.

The issue Lush have is they've massively overestimated public awareness of the #spycops campaign and inquiry and so managed to make their own campaign look like a simple slur against the police in general.
 
This made me think of the old "there's no such thing as bad publicity". Then I saw their 1* rating from all these reviews. Maybe they are the exception to the rule :).
 
I guess the store is fairly niche and targeted at SJW types who are into animal rights etc.. so the whole anti-police message probably isn't going to do too much harm with that crowd.
 
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