Eiffel tower anti terrorism barrier

part and parcel of living in a big city...

There are various barriers in London too, some street furniture is designed to have a dual use. Various bridges in London have perhaps less discrete barriers in order to try and prevent another van of peace.
 
Better than the attempt they have made in Windsor. Google: Windsor security barriers for pictures. Seriously ugly attempt at making the area ‘safe’
 
Tefal said:
Exactly...they have to pick a less densely populated, less effective and less disruptive target.

They aren't claiming to stop terrorism theyre just trying to minimise its effects .


I will never understand the mindset of "well if we can't totally solve the problem in one act we shouldn't even try progressive improvement"
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well they should have started with restaurants and live music venues then.
 
Skunkworks said:
Instead of having loads of small borders inside the country, I'd put one big one around the outside. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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As an island we are fortunate enough to have the sea around us, sadly we have a less than well policed tunnel, too. With a willing and Draconian border force we are in a superb position to challenge illegal entry if we were backed up by the courts, and perhaps something similar to Hungary, a bounty on the heads of "irregular" migrants for the average coastal villagers, then we could distance ourselves from the invasion we read about daily, albeit reports now well watered down.
 
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I was there on Thursday. I felt more unsafe walking through the gangs staring everyone down at the bottom of the Sacre Coeur in Montmarte to be honest. Why the police don't move them on I do not know.
 
Skorpion said:
So the terrorists reading about this are thinking "ok, we'll just attack somewhere else that isn't protected".
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LiE said:
Exactly. It doesn't stop terrorist attacks, it just points them at the next target.
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It's the same with British courts ordering ISPs to block a certain pirate site. The punters will just move onto the next one and so on.

Whack-a-mole effect.
 
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Energize said:
As vulnerable as they are to the Molotov cocktails that can easily be tossed over the wall? It's incredibly short sighted.
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lol rather harder to kill a load of people with Molotov cocktails than it is with firearms.... most people would likely start running
 
Energize said:
As vulnerable as they are to the Molotov cocktails that can easily be tossed over the wall? It's incredibly short sighted.
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It's a compromise. Complete protection would require building a high quality bunker around it and military security with a large enough garrison. Stopping vehicles and bullets is a very good way to stop the most likely attacks of peaceful mass murder and that's what this is for.
 
It's a bit like airport security. It has two purposes. To make people feel a little safer while at the same time reminding them that they are at risk. It keeps the populace's attention against the middle east and in line with current military policy. It also keeps people afraid and angry enough so when the government ask for permission to bomb another area of the middle east they will approve.

However this is simply perpetuating the whole thing, which is a (now) 6 decade campaign to prevent the middle east uniting into a super power, at the same time as securing any oil they can and securing control over areas to run pipelines.

God forbid they fight back because they don't have 500lb laser guided bombs, which apparently can hit a postage stamp, so the women and children are safe.... it's a 500lb bomb, it takes the whole street out and no they are not always that accurate. If they fight back it has to be with what they have; IEDs, vans, suicide bombers.

One thing you can be 100% sure of is when that 500lb bomb lands true on the door knocker of an ISIS safe house in Syria ... taking out three buildings full of women and children next door.... on Monday morning the recruitment office queue at ISIS will be three times longer.

When they apparently deal with one bogey man, they manufacturer another, usually by ******* people off afresh bombing them.

I also disagree with the term "Terrorist". I believe it is just a faction in the middle east believing it is defending it's self and seeking retribution for the atrocities 'merka and it's side kicks in Europe have been doing in the middle east. If "terrorist" is being used because of attacks on civilians then we need to look at the number of civilian casualties in the middle east at the hands of the west. They outnumber those in the US, UK, Frane by orders of magnitude.

Remember 60 years ago, it was us who invented carpet bombing of civilians in cities. Look up how many civilians were bombed in Berlin in the 40s. We have Bomber Harris of the RAF to thank for that technique.

War IS terror.

Of course, we are were we are. So we are under threat. Putting up walls and barriers is not going to stop that. Stopping interfering and generating war and hatred in the middle east might go a lot further to stopping it though.
 
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