Henry Cavill criticised for #MeToo comments

Freakbro · 13 Jul 2018 at 14:51

CREATIVE!11 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdPblCjiQNo

You were saying? must be imagining this entire video. There are a bunch more too of feminists having meltdowns over benign events.

Fake news

Moron.

Excuse me?

CREATIVE!11 · 13 Jul 2018 at 14:52

Freakbro said:
Fake news

Ok.

explicit4u · 13 Jul 2018 at 14:57

aardvark said:
he has a point - look what happened to aziz ansari.
If i was rich/famous i would be very very careful.

Yet even in his apology he never echoed what Cavill and some in here are saying. If fact he actually said he still fully supports the movement and change in culture.

I think the girl in that story didn't help herself and it's one of the few cases where I believe she should've taken responsibility for her safety and left. But it's still another case of someone (Ansari) not being able to pick up on both non-verbal and verbal cues that someone is not ready/interested in taking things a step further.

ttaskmaster · 13 Jul 2018 at 14:58

Thekwango said:
most on here claiming that you can't speak to women for fear of 'omh rape/harrasement' probably struggle with knowing what is and isn't acceptable

We used to... but they keep moving the bloody goal posts!!

explicit4u said:
Nope, it happens in male and male situations too.

Can't say I've ever had a bloke reject any of my advances...

explicit4u said:
Well when she's 'bored of playing' she'll make it known she's no longer interested.

Chances are I'd be bored before her anyway - Games are things I play on a computer, not in real life.

Thekwango said:
doesn't mean we should be **** scared to approach, talk to or try and chat women up.

Yes it does. The government should introduce new legislation to BAN all men from talking to women. It's the only way to reduce the crime stats!

Moothead2 said:
Don't be creepy and don't be a weirdo

You do realise this is a forum for computer geeks, right.....?

Freakbro · 13 Jul 2018 at 15:06

CREATIVE!11 said:
Ok.

You don't think it's just a staged event from a bat**** crazy feminist wanting to make a non-existant point just to post something to youtube and not reflective of normal peoples day to day life?

How many people have threatened you with sexual harassment because you said "Hi" to them?

You need to look in the mirror first before throwing more moron comments around tbh

G-MAN2004 · 13 Jul 2018 at 15:09

The only time you'll have a problem with trying to chat a woman up, is if she's a hardcore feminist, or you're creepy. The large majority of the time you're good to go and people aren't bothered.

I very much doubt a man of his looks and status has any issues whatsoever in the woman department though.

antijoke · 13 Jul 2018 at 15:14

G-MAN2004 said:
I very much doubt a man of his looks and status has any issues whatsoever in the woman department though.

Way to miss the point entirely.

CREATIVE!11 · 13 Jul 2018 at 15:14

Freakbro said:
How many people have threatened you with sexual harassment because you said "Hi" to them?

Just because it doesn't happen to me or to you does not mean it doesn't happen.

By the same thinking we can say "oh how many false rape claims have you had against you? none? well doesn't happen mate"

Yet there are news stories of guys that have killed themselves following a rape accusation that has later turned out to be completely false.

Thekwango · 13 Jul 2018 at 15:22

ttaskmaster said:
We used to... but they keep moving the bloody goal posts!!

no they don't....a very small minority of crazy feminazis (is that the right word now?) would like to but the vast majority of women are sill perfectly normal and approachable (assuming you're not rubbing your crotch and dribbling down your chin)

ttaskmaster said:
Yes it does. The government should introduce new legislation to BAN all men from talking to women. It's the only way to reduce the crime stats!

i really do hope this is just missing a stick out tongue, i'm having a laugh emoji?

sideways14a · 13 Jul 2018 at 15:24

He should be apologizing for that tash he had.

DrToffnar · 13 Jul 2018 at 15:24

The mad histrionics of GD.

There will always be mad ladies who cry 'RAPE!' at the first sign of an approach, just as there will be despicable men who don't know when to back off. The world isn't made up of these insane absolutes. It is still possible, nay EXCEPTIONALLY likely that you can go out tonight and have a friendly chat with a woman WITHOUT there being repercussions.

Freakbro · 13 Jul 2018 at 15:24

CREATIVE!11 said:
Just because it doesn't happen to me or to you does not mean it doesn't happen.

By the same thinking we can say "oh how many false rape claims have you had against you? none? well doesn't exist mate"

Yet there are news stories of guys that have killed themselves following a false rape accusation.

Since I have volunteered to be a defense witness at Crown in a false domestic abuse accusation, then of course I know fake accusations happen.

What we are saying is the ludicrous extremes you incels want to portray things nowadays as the norm, instead of realising there are bat**** crazy people out there who always have and always will act in bat**** crazy ways (and social media has now given them a platform) but the vast vast majority of people go about normal interactions on a daily basis without being accused of harassment.

DrToffnar said:
The mad histrionics of GD.

There will always be mad Ladies who cry 'RAPE!' at the first sign of an approach, just as there will be despicable men who don't know when to back off. The world isn't made up of these insane absolutes. It is still possible, nay EXCEPTIONALLY likely that you can go out tonight and have a friendly chat with a woman WITHOUT there being repercussions.

Exactly

Thekwango · 13 Jul 2018 at 15:25

CREATIVE!11 said:
Yet there are news stories of guys that have killed themselves following a rape accusation that has later turned out to be completely false.

there are news stories of planes falling out of the sky and cars crashing and people dying, are they reason enough to stop using planes or cars?

sad and shocking as false rape allegations are, they aren't a reason to stop talking to women.

CREATIVE!11 · 13 Jul 2018 at 15:27

Thekwango said:
they aren't a reason to stop talking to women.

Well yeah of course not.

That'd be like saying never take a flight anywhere because planes crash.

explicit4u · 13 Jul 2018 at 15:27

CREATIVE!11 said:
Just because it doesn't happen to me or to you does not mean it doesn't happen.

By the same thinking we can say "oh how many false rape claims have you had against you? none? well doesn't happen mate"

Yet there are news stories of guys that have killed themselves following a rape accusation that has later turned out to be completely false.

He's not saying it never happens. You started off by acting like it's the norm that if you approach a woman and say hi you'll get accused of sexual harassment. Someone's already pointed out that you're just as guilty as the #metoo people of over-exaggerating.

dowie · 13 Jul 2018 at 15:28

Moses said:
What way in which they're being dealt with? For Joe public, after the recent high profile disclosure failings, it's shifting in favour of the wrongly accused if anything, no?

no not with regards to what I was mostly referring to re: the US and college campuses (though as you point out some of the rape case collapses over here have highlighted a rather questionable attitude on the part of police and the CPS too and yes hopefully that should be changing here), policies for dealing with cases started changing under the Obama administration under threats of sanctions - if you're interested the Atlantic has been covering the current farce over there.

this one was a slightly unusual one in that the "victim" (which can essentially be the first of the couple to report the drunken incident) was male and possibly out for revenge after his buddy was previously accused by the girl he accused of assaulting him - fortunately there is a case Doe vs. Miami University that might change some of the current approach but at the moment it seems that current handling of these cases can be completely farcical.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/title-ix-is-too-easy-to-abuse/561650/

The event in précis, as summarized by Robby Soave of Reason magazine:

“Male and female student have a drunken hookup. He wakes up, terrified she's going to file a sexual misconduct complaint, so he goes to the Title IX office and beats her to the punch. She is found guilty and suspended.”

The image that this conjured—of a couple waking up in the fetid bed of blackout sex, coming to the hideous realization of what happened and then lacing up their running shoes for a mad race across campus to the Torquemada of Title IX—is not just amusing, but offers a potentially useful precedent to the nation’s college men. The race is not always to the swift, but the functionaries of the college sex panic have an obdurate habit of determining that the victim of a blearily remembered amorous encounter is the person who decides to report it, with all ties broken by the one who reports it first.

here is an earlier article they published last year - a case where a girl remained fully clothed and gave a male student a blow job then decided afterwards that because she wasn't really into it that it was sexual assault

https://www.theatlantic.com/educati...rtable-truth-about-campus-rape-policy/538974/

In the early hours of Saturday, November 1, 2014, Bonsu, then a junior, was at the house where many of his fraternity brothers lived. There he ran into another junior, whom I’ll call R.M., a white female marketing student. According to a written account by R.M., who declined to be interviewed for this story, the two started talking and smoking marijuana; eventually they kissed. As she wrote, “It got more intense until finally I shifted so that I was straddling him.” She told him she wasn’t interested in intercourse and he said he was fine with that.

Then, she wrote, “I started to move my hand down his chest and into his pants.” R.M. interrupted this to take a phone call from a female friend who was also at the house and trying to find her. The call ended and then, R.M. wrote, “I got on my knees and started to give him a blow job.” After a short time, “I removed my mouth but kept going with my hand and realized just how high I was.” She wrote that she felt conflicted because she wanted to stop—she said she told him she was feeling uncomfortable and thought she needed to leave—but that she also felt bad about “working him up and then backing out.” (In Bonsu’s written account, he stated that R.M. said she needed to leave because she was concerned her friend might “barge in” on them.) The encounter continued for a few more minutes, during which, she wrote, he cajoled her to stay—“playfully” grabbing her arm at one point, and drawing her in to kiss—then ended with an exchange of phone numbers. R.M. had not removed any clothing.

R.M. then went down to the kitchen to find her friend. As she explained in her statement, “[My friend] knows I was with Kojo. She probably told all the brothers in the room, and they’re gonna hate me when they find out”—she didn’t explain why. “I can never come back here.” Her friend started teasing her, asking how it had gone. R.M. was a resident adviser in her dormitory—someone tasked with counseling other students—and at that moment, she wrote, “as my RA training kicked in, I realized I’d been sexually assaulted.”

she decided that she'd been sexually assaulted retrospectively because of the "training" she's received as a student advisor...

CREATIVE!11 · 13 Jul 2018 at 15:35

explicit4u said:
You started off by acting like it's the norm that if you approach a woman and say hi you'll get accused of sexual harassment.

It was mainly a bit of joke really. More specifically it was just a bit of running joke around the #MeToo movement "He touched me on the shoulder once #MeToo" "He handed me my shopping once #MeToo".

However, I'm not denigrating legitimate claims of sexual harassment. Just making fun of the twitter mobs that claim everything is some form of oppression / harassment.

Ayahuasca · 13 Jul 2018 at 15:37

CREATIVE!11 said:
It was mainly a bit of joke really. More specifically it was just a bit of running joke around the #MeToo movement "He touched me on the shoulder once #MeToo" "He handed me my shopping once #MeToo".

However, I'm not denigrating legitimate claims of sexual harassment. Just making fun of the twitter mobs that claim everything is some form of oppression / harassment.

You triggered a few here with them even throwing around the incel insult, without even knowing what it means by the looks of things.

So much waffle in this thread when the Norwood Reaper is to blame, balding is a death sentence for dating in the west.

CREATIVE!11 · 13 Jul 2018 at 15:39

Ayahuasca said:
balding is a death sentence for dating in the west.

It's over for haircels boyo.

I lucked out though, no balding in my family.

Freakbro said:
you incels

Hi guys, Freakbro here, i'm what you guys might class as an "alpha chad".

ttaskmaster · 13 Jul 2018 at 16:09

G-MAN2004 said:
I very much doubt a man of his looks and status has any issues whatsoever in the woman department though.

Only because a guy with hair that good is likely gay....

Thekwango said:
no they don't....a very small minority of crazy feminazis (is that the right word now?) would like to

Awful lot of them getting upset when I hold the door for them, nowadays...
But in general, they keep moving the goalposts and I mean from long before this latest SJW Feminazi thing even happened. Pre-internet days, even.

They did this film called What Women Want, with Mel Gibson I think, and the upshot was that women themselves don't know what they want.... which I eventually figured to mean every one wants something totally different.
I've known some women that actually wanted (and had to ask) me to treat them in ways that would have made other women shoot me dead!!
This new set of trends is just an extension of what women are generally like.

I just CBA with it.

Thekwango said:
i really do hope this is just missing a stick out tongue, i'm having a laugh emoji?

It would be....if I didn't think the government seriously would respond in this way. They seem to do it for everything else!

DrToffnar said:
It is still possible, nay EXCEPTIONALLY likely that you can go out tonight and have a friendly chat with a woman WITHOUT there being repercussions.

My wife says you're a liar.... and challenges you to bet your balls on it, since she'd rather keep mine intact!!!

CREATIVE!11 said:
Hi guys, Freakbro here, i'm what you guys might class as an "alpha chad".

Incels?
Chad?
WTF????!!!
So not only can't I talk to women, I now can't even understand what other blokes are saying??!!

I'm really not having a good time of this decade!!