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I'm hoping he will sue the crap out of Elon for what he said.
Goes to show what type of person that guy is.
Goes to show what type of person that guy is.
Thai cave rescue - One of the divers has died
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A visionary sure, but from his little tantrums on twitter and what his ex wife has said about him it appears as a human he's a piece of ****
There's plenty of nice people in the world achieving not very much, there aren't many people sending rockets into space and building electric cars. I'd rather take a few more of the latter.
Obviously he shouldn't have called him a pedo, although he's a ********.
I don't quite understand why there has been such a backlash from certain quarters against Musk's helping out, I get that some areas of the media and people don't like rich businessmen but I've seen this brewing for a while for no real reason and now Musk has given it fuel they'll push for maximum damage.
I like the fact he is vocal and doesn't let a media team manage him, it's much better than the usual vapid, vanilla, tripe (my new Eau de Cologne) that come out of large business media departments.
I don't quite understand why there has been such a backlash from certain quarters against Musk's helping out, I get that some areas of the media and people don't like rich businessmen but I've seen this brewing for a while for no real reason and now Musk has given it fuel they'll push for maximum damage.
I like the fact he is vocal and doesn't let a media team manage him, it's much better than the usual vapid, vanilla, tripe (my new Eau de Cologne) that come out of large business media departments.
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You're saying it's impossible to build questionably eco friendly vehicles and space ships without being a dick ?
I'm not even sure how Tesla is still surviving as they always seem to be reported as making a loss - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/may/02/tesla-loss-model-3-elon-musk so I wonder if there's something dodgy going on with the company and Musk
Maybe his personality type is a large part of the reason why he's achieved so much. Bill Gates by all accounts was a complete savage in the work environment, I personally couldn't care less as he's wiped out a disease and donated billions to charity. Elon Musk is doing more than most to move the species forward technologically. Not everyone needs to be a nice guy.
Musk is a dick, it's not the first time he has decided to insult critics like that.
Musk turned up at the cave and was told to leave apparently. I'm guessing he kicked off then when he didn't get his own way which is why the diver seemed initially hostile online.
Musk turned up at the cave and was told to leave apparently. I'm guessing he kicked off then when he didn't get his own way which is why the diver seemed initially hostile online.
What has she said about him?
I'm not sure one, very bad taste, post on twitter and some comments from an estranged ex (if true, whatever they may be, really can't be bothered to look that up) can be used to label someone a human piece of ****.
I do know that a company that builds rockets diverted their resources, worked hard and HAS built a submarine that if not viable in this situation could be at some other point in time. Not to say it couldn't have been made to work in it's next iteration. They seem intent on trying it out.
The diver does not come across well, smirking away while telling someone trying to help in a material way to 'shove it where it hurts'. Despite others involved asking them to continue as a fallback. PR exercise? Not sure how building a sub helps sell satellite launches.
Long term thinking, it took 15 years before Ocado posted it's first profit - https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/feb/03/ocado-first-annual-profit-waitrose-morrisons
Though Tesla must have some big backers with deep pockets to rack up the losses he is doing
possibly, there doers seem to be a trend for sociopaths types to do quite well - Steve Jobs was also supposed to have been a complete and utter arse hole to work for at times
he's already dated that "type", albeit in the form of a Hollywood actress - seems he's come a long way since founding PayPal:
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Poor form from musk after what seemed like a gracious gesture. His true colours showing?
possibly, there doers seem to be a trend for sociopaths types to do quite well - Steve Jobs was also supposed to have been a complete and utter arse hole to work for at times
he's already dated that "type", albeit in the form of a Hollywood actress - seems he's come a long way since founding PayPal:
Amber Heard is another basket case tbh. I suspect there are at least 50 cats in her head.
Still would though.
if you think she's a bit mad check out his current partner:
(she does make good music though)
That isn't the account of other people involved including the lead divers who kept Musk in the loop - also Vern looks away from the camera/presenter at that point in a way that suggests he isn't being entirely honest though that is my reading of it - Musk has also posted pictures, etc. online that suggests he wasn't just there for a short time and was told to leave but had time to do some research - though it seems that didn't really penetrate very deep into the cave and the challenges beyond the most evident.
I wouldn't be quick to brand him a sociopath, he's probably just a competitive no nonsense type who says what he thinks.
Which other divers? Apart from the guy in the emails I've seen Musk slagging off both Vern and the Thai rescue chief who also said the sub wasn't practical a few days before:
https://interestingengineering.com/...ief-calling-him-not-the-subject-matter-expert
He doesn't seem to take rejection of his ideas very well, so I can fully believe he was told to leave.